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UK General Election 2024

Started by zorkan, May 30, 2024, 02:16:37 PM

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zorkan

So Starmer promises stability.
I'll revise the alliteration.
Starmer promises stupor.

Tank

No, he wants economic growth. He has to have that so tax revenue increases. He may not get it but that remains to be seen. None of us has a crystal ball and after the shit show of the last 14 years my dead dog could have done a better job than the Conservatives did, simply because she would not have interfered.
 :'( 
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Asmodean

Quote from: Tank on July 05, 2024, 09:48:46 AMYes. Him and 3 other Reform candidates became MPs. He was an MEP for 20 years so he shit disturbed there.
 
MEP is a EU minister, yes? I'm not certain what those are even for, if I'm honest. Smear a thin veneer of democracy on a committee government, I suppose.

In any case, I've read somewhere that he has been trying to become a minister of Parliament for a ridiculously long time, but never quite managed before. A seat under a Labour majority though it may be, well done Nigel, i suppose. :smilenod:
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

billy rubin

Quote from: Tank on July 05, 2024, 04:47:56 AMA very British revolution. A peaceful landslide.


america is devolving. we used to do this too, but we are currently cursed by populism


Just be happy.

Tank

Quote from: Asmodean on July 05, 2024, 08:14:10 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 05, 2024, 09:48:46 AMYes. Him and 3 other Reform candidates became MPs. He was an MEP for 20 years so he shit disturbed there.
 
MEP is a EU minister, yes? I'm not certain what those are even for, if I'm honest. Smear a thin veneer of democracy on a committee government, I suppose.

In any case, I've read somewhere that he has been trying to become a minister of Parliament for a ridiculously long time, but never quite managed before. A seat under a Labour majority though it may be, well done Nigel, i suppose. :smilenod:

MEP is a member of the European parliament. Yes this was 8th time lucky.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Tank

Quote from: billy rubin on July 05, 2024, 08:45:58 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 05, 2024, 04:47:56 AMA very British revolution. A peaceful landslide.


america is devolving. we used to do this too, but we are currently cursed by populism

Large chunks of Europe are doing so too. France is heading far right to the point they would invite Hitler in if they could!
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

zorkan

#96
Quote from: Tank on July 05, 2024, 04:10:15 PMNo, he wants economic growth.
Don't they all?

QuoteHe has to have that so tax revenue increases.
Or he'll break his promise not to put up taxes?

QuoteNone of us has a crystal ball
Buy one Keir.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Magic-Crystal-Ball-See-Future/dp/076246514X

I see the puns are being rolled out by the gutter press that represent Labour.
"Keir We Go!"
"Work Starts Keir!"

So what's in a name?
"Closely related to the Irish Ciarán, Keir is a Gaelic masculine name that means "dark."
 Born from the Irish ciar, Keir cuts a brooding figure who finds comfort in the deeper recesses of their mind."

Come to think, he looks like Frankenstein.
https://coloneldespard.wordpress.com/2022/05/23/keir-starmer-an-anti-left-frankensteins-monster/

Tank

Do you want him to fail? Are you so hateful of our country that you want things to get worse after the shit storm of the last 14 years? You can't possibly think that those cunt Conservitive arseholes deserved anything but slaughtering at the polls.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

zorkan

QuoteDo you want him to fail?
He will fail.

QuoteAre you so hateful of our country that you want things to get worse after the shit storm of the last 14 years?
Inaccurate. There was a coalition for 5 years.

QuoteYou can't possibly think that those cunt Conservitive arseholes deserved anything but slaughtering at the polls.

They slaughtered Jeremy Corbyn and his bunch of looney lefties less than 5 years ago.
Strange how Corbyn, the anti-semite was sitting next to Starmer in parliament, a man with a Jewish wife.

Labour only exists to tax and spend from raising taxes directly or by stealth.
Labour will borrow more — on past evidence, much more — than markets currently expect.
Labour will leave a scorched earth for the next Tory administation to resolve.
Labour will give in to union pay demands sparking wage inflation.
The pound will lose its value on foreign markets meaning that prices of imported goods will rise.
From past experience we might find that rubbish will pile up in the streets and the dead will lie unburied.




Tank

If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Icarus

Damn...Zorkan has predicted forthcoming doom.  That sounds quite a lot like the impending sociopolitical wreck that is the entirely possible case here in the U.S. Doom!

What the hell, we may be physically fried before the political doom takes place. Yesterday the temperature in Las Vegas Nevada was 118 F. Not far away, at Death Valley, the recorded temp was 127 F.

The heat could create a circle of cause and effect. Everyone would turn on their AC units and ice makers. That would cause an overload on the electric grid and lead to a colossal crash. Now no one will have a functional AC unit. There will be riots in the streets and we could be invaded my extra terrestials because we will be too heat stressed and dehydrated to fight back.... and so on.

Dark Lightning

Well, if enough people kill each other in the riots, electrical demand will decrease, and there will be global cooling.  ;D

I won't pretend to understand the intricacies of the political system on the other side of the pond. I'd sure like to see less NAZI-like activity there and elsewhere, like here in the US.

Tank

Watching the pundits on the TV this morning it was incredibly refreshing not to have Conservative lies paraded. There were adult discussions accepting we are in deep shit and the only way out is going to take hard work and focus. It is such a relief to be free of those Conservative clowns.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Tank

It's started.

Planning rules are to be changed and NIMBYs (Not In My Back Yard) will have to suck it up. For example there will be national house building targets. Local authorities have to decide where the new houses go but they have to decide. They can't simply say no.

The UK has a concept of 'Green Belts' around our major conurbations. Some is beautiful countryside and important natural resources. But other areas are Grey Belt. For example an old airfield may be in a Green Belt area and thus currently untouchable. The planning laws will be changed to allow these Grey Belt areas to be built on.

Another thing of note is that local interests will not be allowed to hold back the national interest. For example there has been a ban on onshore wind turbines because they spoilt the view of some rich and influential Tory supporters. This ban will go. In addition the infrastructure to connect these generators will be included in the planning rules. This is all good common sense. Some people won't like this but we are in this together and the minority will no longer hold us back.

This is change on a scale that I have not seen before. It is such a pleasure and relief to have some adults in charge for a change.

 
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

zorkan

The impact of Labour's plans to build homes will affect just about everybody.

No longer will villagers be able to protect their green belt status.
Leafy places will disappear or be surrounded by new developments.

Just a couple of examples.

A peaceful place like Stonesfield in Oxfordhire, home to the site of William Buckland's discovery of dinosaur bones and a Roman villa nearby will be obliterated by housing estates. Locals there tell me that so far they have resisted the plans.
Even though I don't live in a wonderful place like this I respect its beauty. It will be lost to future generations.

My local football club will see the bulldozers arrive to demolish the club house, the stand and the floodlights, having resisted the planning of new homes there for a number of years now. Little doubt the lines of mature oak trees will be felled also.

Even if they build on brownfield sites it will mean more traffic, more pollution and a quality of life close to zero.
Homes will still be priced out of reach of buyers.