Re: God or religion, which are atheists more unhappy with?

[Yrreg]

God or religion, which are atheists more unhappy with?



Yrreg

[LoneMateria]

God or religion, which are atheists more unhappy with?



Yrreg

Welcome Back Yrreg.  I think last time we had this misunderstanding too.  We can't be unhappy (or happy or angry or mad or any other emotion) with the tooth fairy because it isn't real ... just like your god.

[elliebean]

I'm displeased with religion :animeyay: .

[G-Roll]

neither. what since does it make to throw a bunch of completely different individuals into a huge generalization?

what tool do rational theists prefer?
screw driver or a hammer?

[pckizer]

Likewise (late edit: some of) the above, count me extremely unhappy with religion (and dogma in general) due to the harm it can entice others to do because of it.  As for the concepts of the gods I've heard talked about, they are so laughably implausible (or irrelevant even if amusingly carved in the case of the ones like tikis and totems) there's no reason for concern of any kind, happy, unhappy or otherwise, just like with the tooth fairy or generic garden fairies or pick your other mythical creature.

[Whitney]

I'm more unhappy with some religions than others and the idea of god doesn't bother me just what some people do with that idea.

I don't think you are going to get an across the board answer on this one....atheist, after all, isn't a religion and therefore is free of the dogma that would produce boxed answers.

[Kylyssa]

I'm unhappy about some religion because it is a real thing that can and does have unpleasant consequences on my life and on the lives of others.  I am not unhappy with God because, as something that doesn't exist, it has no consequence on my life or anyone else's.  Belief in God exists, God probably doesn't.

[Ellainix]

God does not exist, so obviously religion would be what bothers me. <3

[happynewyear]

God or religion, which are atheists more unhappy with?



Yrreg

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[curiosityandthecat]

Welcome Back Yrreg.  I think last time we had this misunderstanding too.  We can't be unhappy (or happy or angry or mad or any other emotion) with the tooth fairy because it isn't real ... just like your god.

Exactly. Being unhappy with God is like being unhappy with Darth Vader.

[Godterminator]

Religions are the ones that have exploited the idea of god, so I would say that they really bother me. Gods, since they do not exist, would nor cause any harm. The problem is religious people have made them "say and do" things that have affected billions. It is the hierarchy of the churches around the word that has made gods what they are today, beings that kill you and send you to hell, but they love you! And always need money.

[i_am_i]

What makes me unhappy, if I were to actually take it to heart, is that there are people whose lives are so empty and meaningless and devoid of original thought that they buy into all this sky-god-resurrected-Jesus rubbish. Now that's just sad.

[LoneMateria]

I've already answered my bit about imaginary being, but how about religion?  Well I think most days believers are more angry at religion then atheists.  I know I personally view religion as an annoyance and only become angry at it when it is used to justify atrocities and blatantly immoral behavior.  I think most believers have the same view like when Christians look at Islam, or when Protestants look at Catholics.  All believers tolerate one another to an extent, but become outraged when say a protestant looks at the catholic churches covering up child molesters, or when catholics see protestant children dying because their parents believe in faith healing instead of traditional medicine, or when Christians see Jihads being declared by Islamic Priests, or when Islams see Christians attempting to control governments and then advocating invading Islamic countries (such as for Gog and Magog like our last president).  The point is whatever religion a believer is that person typically gets angry at opposing religions from time to time.  Like the old adage goes atheists believe in one less god then Christians, well something similar can be said in regards to religions, an atheist is a person who gets angry at one more religion then a believer.  Why is this and what makes everyones religion wrong regardless?

Religion devalues human life (mostly women but often times minorities).  It asserts that we are pathetic dirty beings who deserve eternal punishment for finite crimes (such as being born look up baptism if you don't believe me) and even "thought crimes"(such as not believing in Jesus or Allah).  It tries to stop and reverse scientific progress but most followers of it won't hesitate to reap the benefits.  It is often times used to justify atrocities.  It is the biggest spreader of misinformation in human history.  Those who speak for it are allowed to unscrupulously declare anything they want and do not have to defend themselves when proven wrong.  Followers of it are often encouraged to suspend their critical thinking skills and submit to it an all areas of their life because it claims to be infallible.  It claims the moral high ground when clearly it's up to its ears in its own shit.  It tells people to be satisfied with what they have and know and not strive to have or learn more.  Religion is one argument away from a holy war on any given day.  It allows people to to avoid responsibility for their actions, have you ever wondered why there are so many born again Christians on death row?  It turns people into hypocrites.  It is a barbaric and immoral system of profit that exists because of ignorance, superstition, an and plain old every day bullying.  It is a blight of our society and needs to go the way of polio.

[skwurll]

I'd say I'm unhappy with most religions, as it brainwashes people into following a certain lifestyle and deprives them of independent thought.

And being unhappy with God is like being unhappy with a minotaur, as both are fictional beasts quick to anger and slow to reason.

[Yrreg]

I can see that since atheists don't believe in God's existence, logically they should claim to be neither happy nor unhappy with God.

On the other hand, since religious people do exist and atheists know they do exist, atheists can be and should be either happy or unhappy with religious people, hence with religion.

And they certainly are unhappy with religion or concretely with religious people, unless they are being dishonest and say that they are not unhappy with religion or religious people.


In regard to God, if atheists were administered a lie detector test, and asked the question whether they are unhappy with God or not, if they say dishonestly that they have no emotional happy sentiment or unhappy sentiment with God, the lie detector could show them to be lying -- what do you think?



Yrreg