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Which evil dictator is most like God?

Started by Ellainix, January 11, 2010, 04:15:23 AM

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Ellainix

For reference, I mean the Jewish/Christian/Muslim God. Pick whatever religious canon you want.

Simple question, what evil dictator has the most in common with God?
Quote from: "Ivan Tudor C McHock"If your faith in god is due to your need to explain the origin of the universe, and you do not apply this same logic to the origin of god, then you are an idiot.

Mark L Holland

The question would be better said as which evil dictator is least like God
 :bananacolor:

Tom62

Perhaps the question should have been "Which dictator acts/acted most like God?"
The universe never did make sense; I suspect it was built on government contract.
Robert A. Heinlein

Tanker

"I'd rather die the go to heaven" - William Murderface Murderface  Murderface-

I've been in fox holes, I'm still an atheist -Me-

God is a cake, and we all know what the cake is.

(my spelling, grammer, and punctuation suck, I know, but regardless of how much I read they haven't improved much since grade school. It's actually a bit of a family joke.

G-Roll

Quote from: "Tanker"Which god?
QuoteJewish/Christian/Muslim God

nero. he didnt do anything when action was needed.
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Quote from: "Moslem"
Allah (that mean God)

curiosityandthecat



Just kidding. Actually, it'd probably be this guy:

-Curio

Sophus

Yeah Vlad the Impaler. Maybe Joseph Stalin because of what he did to those whom he felt threatened his sense of power.
‎"Christian doesn't necessarily just mean good. It just means better." - John Oliver

LoneMateria

How many dictators have tried to commit Genocide in the past century?  My money would be on those ones.  I'd say Hitler but God did a much better job of eliminating those he was bigoted against.
Quote from: "Richard Lederer"There once was a time when all people believed in God and the church ruled. This time was called the Dark Ages
Quote from: "Demosthenes"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true.
Quote from: "Oscar Wilde"Truth, in matters of religion, is simpl

AlP

The communist dictators of last century killed the most people: Stalin, Mao, Lenin and Pol Pot killed tens and tens of millions between them. Lenin and Pol Pot have the dubious distinction of having killed less people than Hitler.
"I rebel -- therefore we exist." - Camus

curiosityandthecat

Quote from: "AlP"The communist dictators of last century killed the most people: Stalin, Mao, Lenin and Pol Pot killed tens and tens of millions between them. Lenin and Pol Pot have the dubious distinction of having killed less people than Hitler.
Yeah, but Stalin, Mao, Lenin and Pol Pot killed their own people. Hitler killed people next door. After a while we won't stand for that, will we?  roflol

-Curio

frog818

I don't think you can make proper comparisons between the two as God is totally fictitious and hence any deeds he committed are totally non-existent. Brutal dictators on the other hand are real genuine people whose atrocities can be studied with both primary and secondary sources.

But just for the heck of it, I would say Napoleon would have to be the closest.  He forced entire nations to his ideology at the point of the sword and succeeded.  His right or wrong belief of self-grandeur coupled with his megalomaniac personality makes him a strong contender for the most evil dictator most like God.
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AlP

Quote from: "curiosityandthecat"Yeah, but Stalin, Mao, Lenin and Pol Pot killed their own people. Hitler killed people next door. After a while we won't stand for that, will we?  roflol
"I rebel -- therefore we exist." - Camus

some light plz

hello Ellainix

When man announces his judgement  against God without giving himself time to think , then he is a unjust person .. also thankless .. !!! surely .
Do not be angry of me ,  until you complete reading  my post .. and please notice that I am speaking about a thing above my knowledge . and humankind's knowledge .

( A ) : Natural phenomena: [ earthquakes , volcanoes , storms , …… ] .
these phenomena existent  before us , we can not say they are evils , the real name of them " creatures " have been created before human creation or as you believe before our evolution  , they used their destructive force to fix and cure  earth before human existence . and truly they are not destroying earth , these phenomena are repairing earth from inside  by this destructive force . and the repair period for each phenomena are different :
earthquakes : 1 or 2 mins in each 10 years or more .
volcanoes: I do not know its period… but I think 1 day in each 15 years or more .
these  phenomena do not divide between people [ believers or non-believers , adult or a baby ] it could happen in SA or USA .or in any area on earth .
a simple example is the snake , it is a creature , we consider it evil when it bites a person , but it is useful for environment,  it eats rats , we could use its poison in some medicine , females love snake's skin , in China people eat the snakes .
 also the Natural phenomena are creatures , we consider them evil when they harmed people , but they are useful for earth and  environment , the volcanoes soil are the best soil for farming and many metals exit by volcanoes .

( B ) : diseases :  [ about sick  babies ]
Reasons are so many [ genetic , viruses , radiation , bacteria , biological , … ] who knows ?
This is very important thing you must know : Until the science knows all the reasons , then  you Decide on whom the blame ?  
But you have no right to put the  blame on God without an evidences … stop .
Possibility according to :
1- a family all their kids are healthy … the rate [        %] .
2- a family all their kids are healthy except one … the rate [        %] .
3- a family all their kids are sick … the rate [        %].
4- a family has no kids … the rate [        %].
Actually I don’t know the rates . but I am sure number ( 1 ) has the highest rate , and number ( 3 ) is the lowest  rate maybe in the world the rate is [ 3 % ] .

( C ) : diseases [ after many years ] :
You came to this life a healthy baby have no diseases , and grew up a child then a boy , young and finally you became a strong adult . until you reach the age of 50 or 60 years . suddenly a cancer has been discovered in your body [ forbid ] .
From your subject : you will blame God not evolution for this disease .
Where was God in your life  during the previous 50 years ?
why did you ignore him and reject him in the happiness time  but  you blame him in sadness time ?
why you were thankless during 50 years for all of his blessing and favor on you ?
even more : you do not want to admit that he is existent .

( D  ) : Wars :
Did God command us to kill  ?
Forbid on Allah ( God ) he  did not commands his followers to kill people  . if you are depending on bible , then I told you most of the bible is lying against God and prophets  .
At holy Quran : ((32. On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land. )) Surah 5
it is ordained on Christians , Muslims and all humankind  â€¦ Allah said do not kill … and made  the choices in our hands … whatever we do , we are the responsible . and should not blame him .
same as the Traffic System : " stop during  the red signal   "  but you ignore the signal , then you killed a person . do you blame the Traffic System ?  

finally this is Allah ,
the prophet is that among the sayings he relates from his Lord is that He said: "
O My servants, I have forbidden oppression for Myself and have made it forbidden amongst you, so do not oppress one another.
O My servants, all of you are astray except for those I have guided, so seek guidance of Me and I shall guide you.
O My servants, all of you are hungry except for those I have fed, so seek food of Me and I shall feed you.
O My servants, all of you are naked except for those I have clothed, so seek clothing of Me and I shall clothe you.
O My servants, you sin by night and by day, and I forgive all sins, so seek forgiveness of Me and I shall forgive you.
O My servants, you will not attain harming Me so as to harm Me, and you will not attain benefiting Me so as to benefit Me.
O my servants, were the first of you and the last of you, the human of you and the jinn of you to become as pious as the most pious heart of any one man of you, that would not increase My kingdom in anything.
O My servants, were the first of you and the last of you, the human of you and the jinn of you to be as wicked as the most wicked heart of any one man of you, that would not decrease My kingdom in anything.
O My servants, were the first of you and the last of you, the human of you and the jinn of you to rise up in one place and make a request of Me, and were I to give everyone what he requested, that would not decrease what I have, any more than a needle decreases the sea if put into it.
O My servants, it is but your deeds that I reckon up for you and then recompense you for, so let him who finds good praise Allah, and let him who finds other than that blame no one but himself."

my regard
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Ellainix

Quote from: "some light plz"hello Ellainix

When man announces his judgement  against [...]
I'm a woman.
Quote from: "Ivan Tudor C McHock"If your faith in god is due to your need to explain the origin of the universe, and you do not apply this same logic to the origin of god, then you are an idiot.

AlP

Quote from: "Ellainix"
Quote from: "some light plz"hello Ellainix

When man announces his judgement  against [...]
I'm a woman.
Nice :).

If your guy is sleeping with another girl and you haven't agreed to an open relationship or similar then he isn't meeting his obligations. Dump him now. He's being a disrespectful asshole. Does he even feel shame for hurting you? Is there any reason to expect he will change? Don't be a slave. Dump the loser and move on.

Edit:
A|P notes that he's on the wrong thread. Sorry about that.
"I rebel -- therefore we exist." - Camus