The secret Christians aren’t sharing with you

[godincarnate.me]

Concerning Christ, I'm certain that many followers secretly believe that "Jesus" resides on Earth and that, upon His death, all existence will end and begin again with his "rebirth." Notice Jesus in quotes. The Christian conviction that He is alive in "heaven" now, poised to resurrect the dead and usher in a new Heaven and Earth speaks volumes, in my estimation. In the present day, a man exhibiting a messianic tendency is deemed mentally unsound; yet, for reasons "unknown," Christians do not apply this judgment to Jesus. I surmise that Christianity's magnitude renders it impervious to scrutiny, and individuals shy away from the prospect of being perceived as irrational for asserting that "Jesus" walks the Earth. Thus, there lies a collective refuge in attributing such divinity to the figure described in the sacred text provided by God.

[Icarus]

More than a few people out there who believe that Jesus not only walks the earth but he is visible and he ocupies a political office. Jesus is using a fictitious name however.  The name he is using is; D. J. Trump.

[godincarnate.me]

Haha

[zorkan]

But surely, David Icke is the Son of God, and he lives on the Isle of Wight.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DBv--gCNIUy/

[Recusant]

Concerning Christ, I'm certain that many followers secretly believe that "Jesus" resides on Earth and that, upon His death, all existence will end and begin again with his "rebirth." Notice Jesus in quotes. The Christian conviction that He is alive in "heaven" now, poised to resurrect the dead and usher in a new Heaven and Earth speaks volumes, in my estimation. In the present day, a man exhibiting a messianic tendency is deemed mentally unsound; yet, for reasons "unknown," Christians do not apply this judgment to Jesus. I surmise that Christianity's magnitude renders it impervious to scrutiny, and individuals shy away from the prospect of being perceived as irrational for asserting that "Jesus" walks the Earth. Thus, there lies a collective refuge in attributing such divinity to the figure described in the sacred text provided by God.

While there's no reason to dispute that you believe "many followers" secretly think Christ is now living on the Earth, it depends on how many is "many". There are some preterists but I don't think they amount to much. Perhaps you'd agree that it's difficult to determine how widespread a secret belief actually is. That's convenient because it's a dubious claim.

It appears that you would like it if "many" Christians harbor this belief, and so have asserted it to be the case. Have you had any takers on the proposition? Why did you decide to share it with atheists?

[zorkan]

If Jesus is now living on earth then how has he survived the last 2000 years?
Does he still live on honey and locusts?
If he died in 33 AD we will know in a few years how many swallow this:

https://ewtnvatican.com/articles/global-2033-preparing-for-the-2000th-anniversary-of-christs-resurrection-5681#:~:text=During%20the%20Jubilee%20of%20Hope,and%20resurrection%20of%20Jesus%20Christ.

Hope I'm also dead by then, because I can't stand any more of this shit.

[billy rubin]

it appears tha godincarnate.me came, saw, conquered, and went home.

i guess dropping off the link to his blog was the sum of his earthly purpose..

[GreenBlaze]

Hi, I would say most Christians do not believe that Jesus is on earth as you say. I am a Christian and have never heard this and my church doesn't support this either. He doesn't lie, he is resurrected as he said. He has undergone the 1st resurrection of Christ and we are waiting on the 2nd coming of Christ. His disciples saw him after his 1st resurrection and then he went up to Heaven.

I wrote this today and this is how I think most Christians think that Jesus continues his presence on earth. He is in heaven though. I will share with you a post first about the supernatural world in terms of the faith as it sounds supernatural to me what you are saying, but that is as far as I go and I know that Jesus went up to Heaven as he said literally in the body. https://www.racheltestimony.com/2025/07/just-having-fun-with-alex-mack-kid-spin.html

This is not a preachy bit to come, but I wrote it today and it fits how he helps today. Not caught in a Jewish restaurant in the UK or by the sea. This may help some to understand more if they do not.

The Good Shepherd How does Jesus care for his flock as believers today-

Jesus cares for his followers and we are his sheep and he is the good shepherd as he called himself in the New Testament (John 10:14). Let's see what he called himself- " I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine." What are the qualities of a good shepherd. The qualities of a good shepherd is that they are protective, caring and that they are a good guide. Jesus counts everyone of us and wants us to get through to eternal life. This reminds me somewhat of Peter in Heidi the children's classic which I read and loved as a child by Joanna Spyri. Peter looked after the goats responsibly and with great affection to. Peter would herd his goats up and take good care of them. Jesus is like this with us and we are though his sheep.

How does Jesus today take care of his followers on earth-

1. Jesus sends his followers the Holy Spirit as a comforter in life which makes life more bearable (John 14:26).

2. Jesus offers his followers/sheep the promise of eternal life "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand" (John 10:28).

3. Jesus today gives us the Eucharist and feeds us through his Communion which is blessed at church-The Eucharist offers us the remission/forgiveness of sins so he forgives peoples sins and allows people to be a member of the Body Christ which Jesus Christ is the head of (1 Ephesians 1:22).

4. If the will of God Jesus can still heal us which has happened to me and this happens through the Holy Spirit today since he was resurrected to Heaven.

5. Jesus will help his followers fight spiritual wars today and will protect his lamb which we are against the wolves. He is more hands on and protective than he was on earth in Heaven as evil practices have gone up and he needs to protect his sheep against the wolf (John 10:12). The gifts he appoints of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians :12) may help with protection to if you have been given those gifts which is dependent on the needs you have in life. In Ephesians 6:12 we learn- "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. It is Jesus who appoints to the Holy Spirit gifts to his church members (Ephesians 4). In this role Jesus will act in protecting us against wolves which try to overtake his lamb (us) to and they will not be successful as promises us. Let's draw courage as well from Jesus' words of courage to us that Satan's plan will never work for his Church-that is for the members and the church itself (Mat 16:18).

6. Jesus really cares for you and will stand behind you supporting you in life as the stronghold and may be quiet at most times just peeping in to make sure you are ok "As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep (John 10:15). Jesus also said that he has divine love for his followers (John 15:9) (John 13:34-35).

7. Jesus gives us his church to support us with our spiritual journey (Hebrews 10:25).

8. Jesus does not give his followers a burden and so with your choices, you can do what you can. Jesus came to fulfil the law of the prophets and not to be a law breaker (Mark 2:27) . God the Father, was to the Shepherd of Israel and God which led them for 40 years and God still guides us today as the Father of all. God is the Jehovah Raah which means the Lord my Shepherd. This reminds me of Peter's grandfather who was the supreme lead in charge.

[billy rubin]

greenblaze, you present a lot of specific information about jesus and what he is doing.

where did you, personally, come by all this? you cite scripture, but are there other sources?

[GreenBlaze]

billy rubin, the Bible is the main source-the Good Shepherd is the scriptures John 10. The rest I knew of and they are true for my life to.
I was baptised in a Catholic church at 8 and given the gifts of the Holy Spirit at 17. I was given a gift of the spirit and part of the gift has protection in it. Jesus said in the Bible he will send his believers when he departs to Heaven a comforter the Holy Spirit which people usually get at baptism. In a walk as a Christian he will equip his believers and he chooses the gifts he says for them for their best needs. He will equip them with a gift of the Holy Spirit and I got mine at 17 and am 52. I have seen it in action the protection it gave me. My spirit to has sent me messages like the Lord's supper and sharing the bread with him. I had a hard time and didn't know how I stood and my spirit like sent this from the the Holy Spirit which speaks to your spirit and they sent it to me. It meant to me that a chance of eternal life will still possible. I saw a vision to in 2014 with him with red eyes in a vision. I had a life saving event and my spirit sent to me like confirmation he did it and it as was described I found later in the Book of Revelations. He has given to healing to without asking in the church from the Holy Eucharist. I have felt the Holy Spirit to in the church and used to work in the ministry at 17 and saw the Holy Spirit in action. It is in the Bible and it is their word and I have seen it happen in my life and others to.

[zorkan]

The shepherd, the lost sheep is simply a children's fairy tale.

[GreenBlaze]

The shepherd, the lost sheep is simply a children's fairy tale.

It is a parable which reflects truth and a different meaning. Jesus said it himself.

This is what my Bible says on the word parable.

A story or fable used to illustrate a religion or moral truth. Jesus made use of the parable to great extent. All the gospel stories record many of his parables except the account of John. In the parable of the Good Shepherd is used (John 10:60), but it is not the word used generally in the Synoptic Gospels Jesus used parables in order to make the preaching of the kingdom more intelligible and impressive to the masses.

[Recusant]

It's a pleasure to see followers of various myths stop by to parade their gaudy holiday vestments for us humble atheists. It's like sowing seeds in the road, to indirectly quote one mythical deity. Mildly amusing, if nothing else.

Of course both GreenBlaze and godincarnate.me would appear to have violated our rule against preaching. I'll see if anybody remains in the mod section to consult about that. 

[GreenBlaze]

It's a pleasure to see followers of various myths stop by to parade their gaudy holiday vestments for us humble atheists. It's like sowing seeds in the road, to indirectly quote one mythical deity. Mildly amusing, if nothing else.

Of course both GreenBlaze and godincarnate.me would appear to have violated our rule against preaching. I'll see if anybody remains in the mod section to consult about that. 

HI Recusant it was not my aim to preach here in this thread, but to provide accurate information to a thread that I saw that had wrong information. I think that is important. I didn't start the thread.
Hi

[Recusant]

HI Recusant it was not my aim to preach here in this thread, but to provide accurate information to a thread that I saw that had wrong information. I think that is important. I didn't start the thread.
Hi

What you've provided is "accurate information" about what you believe. What you've failed to do is provide any support for your implicit claim that your religious text is an objective source of evidence. I consider writing "This is not a preachy bit . . ." above a wall of preaching text to be disingenuous. Quoted below.

The Good News From GreenBlaze

Hi, I would say most Christians do not believe that Jesus is on earth as you say. I am a Christian and have never heard this and my church doesn't support this either. He doesn't lie, he is resurrected as he said. He has undergone the 1st resurrection of Christ and we are waiting on the 2nd coming of Christ. His disciples saw him after his 1st resurrection and then he went up to Heaven.

I wrote this today and this is how I think most Christians think that Jesus continues his presence on earth. He is in heaven though. I will share with you a post first about the supernatural world in terms of the faith as it sounds supernatural to me what you are saying, but that is as far as I go and I know that Jesus went up to Heaven as he said literally in the body. https://www.racheltestimony.com/2025/07/just-having-fun-with-alex-mack-kid-spin.html

This is not a preachy bit to come, but I wrote it today and it fits how he helps today. Not caught in a Jewish restaurant in the UK or by the sea. This may help some to understand more if they do not.

The Good Shepherd How does Jesus care for his flock as believers today-

Jesus cares for his followers and we are his sheep and he is the good shepherd as he called himself in the New Testament (John 10:14). Let's see what he called himself- " I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine." What are the qualities of a good shepherd. The qualities of a good shepherd is that they are protective, caring and that they are a good guide. Jesus counts everyone of us and wants us to get through to eternal life. This reminds me somewhat of Peter in Heidi the children's classic which I read and loved as a child by Joanna Spyri. Peter looked after the goats responsibly and with great affection to. Peter would herd his goats up and take good care of them. Jesus is like this with us and we are though his sheep.

How does Jesus today take care of his followers on earth-

1. Jesus sends his followers the Holy Spirit as a comforter in life which makes life more bearable (John 14:26).

2. Jesus offers his followers/sheep the promise of eternal life "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand" (John 10:28).

3. Jesus today gives us the Eucharist and feeds us through his Communion which is blessed at church-The Eucharist offers us the remission/forgiveness of sins so he forgives peoples sins and allows people to be a member of the Body Christ which Jesus Christ is the head of (1 Ephesians 1:22).

4. If the will of God Jesus can still heal us which has happened to me and this happens through the Holy Spirit today since he was resurrected to Heaven.

5. Jesus will help his followers fight spiritual wars today and will protect his lamb which we are against the wolves. He is more hands on and protective than he was on earth in Heaven as evil practices have gone up and he needs to protect his sheep against the wolf (John 10:12). The gifts he appoints of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians :12) may help with protection to if you have been given those gifts which is dependent on the needs you have in life. In Ephesians 6:12 we learn- "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. It is Jesus who appoints to the Holy Spirit gifts to his church members (Ephesians 4). In this role Jesus will act in protecting us against wolves which try to overtake his lamb (us) to and they will not be successful as promises us. Let's draw courage as well from Jesus' words of courage to us that Satan's plan will never work for his Church-that is for the members and the church itself (Mat 16:18).

6. Jesus really cares for you and will stand behind you supporting you in life as the stronghold and may be quiet at most times just peeping in to make sure you are ok "As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep (John 10:15). Jesus also said that he has divine love for his followers (John 15:9) (John 13:34-35).

7. Jesus gives us his church to support us with our spiritual journey (Hebrews 10:25).

8. Jesus does not give his followers a burden and so with your choices, you can do what you can. Jesus came to fulfil the law of the prophets and not to be a law breaker (Mark 2:27) . God the Father, was to the Shepherd of Israel and God which led them for 40 years and God still guides us today as the Father of all. God is the Jehovah Raah which means the Lord my Shepherd. This reminds me of Peter's grandfather who was the supreme lead in charge.