Christian Nonduality

[billy rubin]

everybody has a story, tank. i just have a big mouth about some of mine.

walk past a graveyard and think about all the life experience extinguished under every one of those headstones.

its the human condition.

[Icarus]

^ Billy also has a keen philosophic bent.

Keep up the good work my respected friend, but stay off them infernal LSR motorcycles.

[billy rubin]

no raci g this year. i had to cancel for july because all the cars broke at once and we ran out of money.

then the second meet in august was cancelled because of insufficient entries

what can i say,  icarus?

[Tank]

Going on a track day on 27th July. Not fully aware of details. There will be pictures, suitably down sized

[Icarus]

no raci g this year. i had to cancel for july because all the cars broke at once and we ran out of money.

then the second meet in august was cancelled because of insufficient entries

what can i say,  icarus?

I say: somebody up there must like you. 

To be realistic, the risk is not worth the thrill that the LSR contest provides.  Consider that there could be an equally rewarding thrill if you were say......... a competitive chess player.

[Asmodean]

So what happens in the case of a Velikovsky type fable (1) a very large object hits Jupiter and a 'comet' is ejected and deflected into the path of the earth causing its axis to change. This time it does not miss the earth to become another planet.
Earth could even start spinning north to south and the poles will shift.

(1) Worlds in Collision by Immanuel Velikovsky, much criticised, but such an event could still happen with Jupiter attracting bodies like rogue planets from outside the solar system.

Well, if your planetary coordinate lattice terminates on the axis of rotation, that would "geographically shift" your poles. Other than that and a mahussive crater... Yeah, not much would happen, I think.

You could, for instance, transform (or, "translate") the Earth's coordinate system such that the poles would lie on the equator. It makes little practical difference outside navigation, but it would still not be possible to venture across the North Pole and maintain northward motion.

[billy rubin]

it would mess up my summer vacation though

[zorkan]

You could, for instance, transform (or, "translate") the Earth's coordinate system such that the poles would lie on the equator. It makes little practical difference outside navigation, but it would still not be possible to venture across the North Pole and maintain northward motion.

There is no north and south, east and west.
If you keep going in the same direction from any point on the earth's surface and keep travelling along curved space there is only one place that will stop you,
Once below the EV there is no exit.

https://www.nasa.gov/image-article/supermassive-black-hole-sagittarius/#:~:text=Supermassive%20black%20hole%20Sagittarius%20A*%20(Sgr%20A*)%20is%20located,is%20revealed%20in%20these%20images.

[Asmodean]

There is no north and south, east and west.

They are directions on a surface, meaning they are the descriptions of position and/or travel, relative to a "static" grid. They may be relational, but they exist.

[zorkan]

In Australia is the North Pole really the South Pole?

How about its relation to the moon.
https://blog.plover.com/geo/Australia.html

Is Australia in the east or the west?

Where is the north of England?
I know the answer to this.
It's anywhere you can get gravy on fish and chips.

[Asmodean]

In Australia is the North Pole really the South Pole?

No, they use the same coordinate system as the UK and "all" [AFAIK] other nations.

How about its relation to the moon.

Uses different coordinate systems.

Is Australia in the east or the west?

Of the Moon? Neither. Of the United Kingdom? East. Curiously, Russia is technically both. (In relation to the UK)

Where is the north of England?

Technically, north of the line exactly halfway between the southernmost and the northernmost point of England. Culturally, the answer may differ, as you have alluded to.

[zorkan]

Traditional centre of England is a village aptly called Meriden which is part of my home town of Solihull.
But not by GPS:
"Lindley Hall Farm in Leicestershire, between Atherstone and Hinckley which is just over 10 miles north of Meriden."

Yet nowhere is north, south, east, west of anywhere else.
We still live in the Pre-Copernican.
The centre of everywhere is the black hole at the centre of the galaxy.
As for the universe as a whole, there is either no centre or everywhere is the centre.

[Asmodean]

The centre of everywhere is the black hole at the centre of the galaxy.

I hate to be that guy, but I also love hating it;


It is the center of mass, around which the galactic bodies, including its supermassive black hole, orbit. It's a point in space rather than an object. that point lying within the boundaries of an object is, in this specific sense, incidental.

[zorkan]

Reminds me, I forgot to mention I'm also atheist to graphs and bar charts.

Did you know that Burger King has 3 times as much in sales than Starbucks. It makes sense that it's (the chart) is three times taller.
But the fact that its area is nine times that of Starbucks shows why the chart exemplifies everything that is wrong with charts that try to incorporate cutesy graphics.

[Icarus]

Graphs of mathematical equations are quite reliable.   

Circular charts that divide factors into parts can easily spoof the observer. Bar graphs are also subject to careful scrutiny.