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UK General Election 2024

Started by zorkan, May 30, 2024, 02:16:37 PM

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Yes. Him and 3 other Reform candidates became MPs. He was an MEP for 20 years so he shit disturbed there.
 
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Tank

Well just got up. There are 4 seats still counting.

Labour have an overall majority of 85 seats. Very similar to the Tory majority last time. So they have won a spectacular victory.
However Labour have 411 (+211) MPs while the Tories have 120 (-250).
So Labour have 291 more MPs than the Conservatives. That is astonishing.
The big winners percentage wise of seats are Liberal Democrats, a Centrist party who I voted for in the past.  . They had 8 MPs before the election and I could not have named their leader, Ed Davey. They now have 71 seats! He fought a blindingly good campaign and took many disaffected Conservative votes.

The Conservatives will now rip themselves apart in recriminations and that will unfortunately mean there will be no effecting balance to the potential excesses of the Labour party. Interesting times ahead.

Details here for those interested.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Tank

Whatever your political alignment this is a spectacular example of a peaceful transfer of power. No deaths or riots, hardly even any shouting. Lots of lies, but in the end of the day they didn't matter. Most Brits can smell a rat.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Tank

The Green party have 4 seats, 3 up. So they have a bigger voice but no power.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Tank

Scotland is interesting (I'm told). The Scottish National Party (SNP) who only stand in Scotland went from 47 seats and a majority in the Scottish parliament to 9! Labour are now in the majority. The SNP ran on their usual full independence for Scotland tickets, a one hit wonder from a new lacklustre leader. He was soundly rejected by the Scot who were largely fed up with the corruption in the SNP and having no voice (except for impotent bleating) in Westminster.

The political relationship of Scotland to the UK is something like a State vs Federal juxtaposition where Scotland is the State. But it's also like saying on FaceBook that the  their relationship is 'complex'.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Tank

There is now no Conservative MPs in Wales at all! The local Welsh party, Plaid Cymru, now have 4 seats up 2.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Tank

So Labour now hold an overall majority comprising majorities in England, Scotland and Wales. They have no place to hide, or blame, but themselves if they don't make things better.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Tank

Northern Ireland (NI) has also had a significant change. Sinn Fein (SF), once known as the political wing of the terrorist IRA, are now the largest political group in NI with 7 seats. They do not take up their seats at the Westminster Parliament. This is a first. Their leader has definitely talked-the-talk of reconciliation in NI. This will be interesting to watch. It should also be noted that the troubles were not started by the Catholic minority in NI. The army was sent into NI to protect the minority Catholics from the majority Protestants. SF have achieved more political change than the IRA ever did. And that is the way it should be. Let's hope the new generation of Protestants in NI don't go the way of the Ulster Defence Force (UDF) and just start killing. Again interesting times.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Tank

I'm very proud of the way things are being done here at the moment. Rishi Sunak, the now ex Prime Minister, was born in the UK. He has Asian/Indian/Hindu inheritance and is a practising Hindu. There are racists in the UK as there are everywhere. But as a country we can and have risen above that.

The next leader of the Conservatives is very likely to be a coloured women. One has an Asian background the other African, bloody brilliant!
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Tank

Please note other other political opinions are available :)
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Tank

Essentially the Tory voters either didn't bother to vote or if they did many went to the centrist Liberal Democrats or further to the right and the new Reform party.

The overall turnout was 60%. Down on the last general election. This is mostly reflected in the drop in Conservative voters realising they were going to lose big time as the campaign went on.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Tank

Kier gave a first rate acceptance speech. He can talk-the-talk now we see if he can walk-the-walk. Only time will tell.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Tank

Looking with more detail the expectation that the new Reform party would split the Conservative vote has proved to be true. However that's a simplistic view. If you add the Conservative and Reform votes together in many places Labour would still have one but with a much tighter margin.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

zorkan

Tory did win in my constituency, Solihull West, with a healthy majority.

But hey, already Labour isn't working.
Starmer promised change straight away. There are only fine words.

Sunak made disastrous mistakes. Biggest was holding July election when he could have waited until November.

Tank

"Starmer promised change straight away. There are only fine words."

You sound a little desperate. He hasn't even been in office 24 hours yet.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.