What's on your mind today?

[SSY]

Hotter than Hell?
The temperature of Heaven can be rather accurately computed. Our authority is Isaiah 30:26,

    "Moreover, the light of the Moon shall be as the light of the Sun and the light of the Sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days."

Thus Heaven receives from the Moon as much radiation as we do from the Sun, and in addition 7*7 (49) times as much as the Earth does from the Sun, or 50 times in all. The light we receive from the Moon is one 1/10,000 of the light we receive from the Sun, so we can ignore that ... The radiation falling on Heaven will heat it to the point where i.e., Heaven loses 50 times as much heat as the Earth by radiation. Using the Stefan-Boltzmann law for radiation, (H/E) temperature of the earth (-300K), gives H as 798K (525C). The exact temperature of Hell cannot be computed ... [However] Revelations 21:8 says

    "But the fearful, and unbelieving ... shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone."

A lake of molten brimstone means that its temperature must be at or below the boiling point, 444.6C. We have, then, that Heaven, at 525C is hotter than Hell at 445C.

I like your calculations son, but you have assumed heaven is a black body, and you have assumed heaven has the same surface area and emisivity as the earth. Heaven would be much larger, due to the large number of souls contained within, and also, I imagine its emisivity would be lower, what with all those clouds and all. Added to this, I reckon god probably pumps out a few yotawatts of heat himself.

[curiosityandthecat]

I like your calculations son, but you have assumed heaven is a black body, and you have assumed heaven has the same surface area and emisivity as the earth. Heaven would be much larger, due to the large number of souls contained within, and also, I imagine its emisivity would be lower, what with all those clouds and all. Added to this, I reckon god probably pumps out a few yotawatts of heat himself.

Aren't you also assuming that souls have mass and take up space? Even if they do, how do we know that their sizes are comparable to humans?

Also, "yotawatt"... can't resist...



 

[Rastelin]

I like your calculations son, but you have assumed heaven is a black body, and you have assumed heaven has the same surface area and emisivity as the earth. Heaven would be much larger, due to the large number of souls contained within, and also, I imagine its emisivity would be lower, what with all those clouds and all. Added to this, I reckon god probably pumps out a few yotawatts of heat himself.[/quote]
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One must try to stay within the boundaries of science as we know it dealing with these issues. curiosityandthecat as a point though. If there are a large quantity of angels orbiting this celestial Eden, one need to device a method to determine the mass of those bodies

[curiosityandthecat]

Ran across a poem that I had forgotten about, but I really love. Thought I'd share.

Lying in a Hammock at William Duffy's Farm in Pine Island, Minnesota
     
Over my head, I see the bronze butterfly,
Asleep on the black trunk,
blowing like a leaf in green shadow.
Down the ravine behind the empty house,
The cowbells follow one another
Into the distances of the afternoon.
To my right,
In a field of sunlight between two pines,
The droppings of last year's horses
Blaze up into golden stones.
I lean back, as the evening darkens and comes on.
A chicken hawk floats over, looking for home.
I have wasted my life.

James Wright

[gwyn428]

Thanks for sharing the poem.  

I wonder if I should or should not keep up this new habit of chewing gum that I bought at the cafe. My father used to be a chronic gum chewer (never thought of that one before) and one morning a tooth shattered while he was eating. I'm scurred.

[Kylyssa]

Thanks for sharing the poem.  

I wonder if I should or should not keep up this new habit of chewing gum that I bought at the cafe. My father used to be a chronic gum chewer (never thought of that one before) and one morning a tooth shattered while he was eating. I'm scurred.

For me, chewing gum is a tooth saver.  I tend to grind my teeth when I'm stressed or in pain but a little gum makes me more aware of what I'm doing and replaces grinding with chewing.

[Whitney]

Thanks for sharing the poem.  

I wonder if I should or should not keep up this new habit of chewing gum that I bought at the cafe. My father used to be a chronic gum chewer (never thought of that one before) and one morning a tooth shattered while he was eating. I'm scurred.

I don't think gum can make  a tooth shatter unless it had a giant cavity from chewing sugar gum.  So, if you want to chew gum make sure it is sugarless.  Btw, I got my first and only caviity from chewing sugar gum for a couple weeks!  It was a pre-cavity and I was lucky enough to have a scheduled dentist visit and caught it early.  Sugar gum is bad.

[gwyn428]

Thank you Kylyssa and laetusatheos for the replies. The gum that I have is sugar free. That's what I will always be sure to get.

[VanReal]

Today I am think about how cool that time-elapsed photography is.  I watched a show on corn yesterday and saw the little sprout pop up and grow to six feet in a few seconds.  Wow that must take a lot of film, or is it digital, or what?  I know I could look it up, but I rather like pondering things a bit before feeling the urge to put my mind at ease.  I'd like to get one of those for my back yard to figure out how the squirrels are really eating the entire bungee cob so quickly.

[curiosityandthecat]

Today I am think about how cool that time-elapsed photography is.  I watched a show on corn yesterday and saw the little sprout pop up and grow to six feet in a few seconds.  Wow that must take a lot of film, or is it digital, or what?  I know I could look it up, but I rather like pondering things a bit before feeling the urge to put my mind at ease.  I'd like to get one of those for my back yard to figure out how the squirrels are really eating the entire bungee cob so quickly.

This may interest you. The Nightmare Before Christmas was done using stop motion (duh, it's claymation) using a digital SLR camera. It's usually done that way as it's easier to use a regular camera and get that sort of quality than using film or digital camcorders. If you have a DSLR, try it sometime! Pick a rose, put it in a vase, place it by a nice, bright lamp, take your camera and stick it on a tripod, then every four to six hours either take a picture or use the timer to do it. Voila, you have the frames for a stop-motion film of a rose dying! A little morbid, sure, but it illustrates the point.  

[VanReal]

That is interesting!  Have to figure out how to use my timer  

[MariaEvri]

Now Im thinking taht from next wednesday and for a week, I might be able to see the london's atheist busses too!

[Rastelin]

I overheard an argument between my brother and his daughter. I felt there was a call for some thoughts on the matter.

There are a lot of things that can go wrong when you are born. One of them can be to die, which if you consider it, saves a lot of trouble in the long run. But if you make it out of the hospital, I would like to see it not as much as a world full of opportunities, but rater a world full of surprises.

There are many horrors life has to offer the newborn. Growing up is one of them. The reason why teenagers are so rebellious are due to the fact that you spend 13 years trying to adapt to the idea of childhood, only to be thrown without warning in to a new exciting life where your body along with everything else decides to perform unauthorized  changes to your physics along with mental adjustment as well. It’s like plowing up the lawn you have been working so hard for 13 years to maintain and perfect. In a metaphorical sense of course for the lesser educated.

The fact that parents for some reason starts to act silly and in general make an nuisance of them selves in your time of need doesn’t assist matters. “Our little girl/boy is growing up” are exactly the wrong ting to say to a teenager who are the central medium for hormones gone mad.
I know this because I’ve been there. The joke is you don’t understand what hit you before you have turned 25 or older. This is why I think back to my teenage years with a grudge

The issue about turnig 13 is where parents fail to be… well, parents. Why?
This is simple. Parenthood who has stretched over 13 years have suddenly been given over to a new management inspection in form of a new creature who are demanding to go to the club in stead of bugging you for Saturday candy. This is where the age process of the average parent speeds up by 150%. In a metaphorical sense again. Which don’t seem much metaphorical. Ask any parent.
It is however my opinion that any decent father shouldn’t have hair left when he reach 50. I am convinced that any hair left is another proof for the lack of decent fatherhood. Broadly speaking of course.

I feel children is a wonderful thing in the same way as a volcano is. But this things erupt sooner or later. But nevertheless you have people challenging the forces of nature, which teenagers in a sense is. This is where parents where invented. In the lava of reproduction.
Not to sound cynical, but it would be a hell of a lot easier if we just could lay eggs, brush some sand over them and leg it. But that is human hood for you.

The saying goes! Adults easily forget when they where young. This is a defense mechanism. This I truly believe with all my heart.

[Tom62]

Cool post, Rastelin. Growing up is very tough, even for adults. Sh#t, I still remember how old I felt the first time someone called me Sir and when I discovered  the first gray hair on my head.

[VanReal]

Believe me, parents do not forget what it's like to be a teenager, we remember vividly and the terror of our teenagers doing the same things we did are constantly running through our minds!  I look at parents with babies, toddlers, and kiddos in elementary school and see the joy and pride in their naiive faces.  I always think to myself "you sucker, just wait until the first time that child looks at you as though they wish you would die".  Really though from about 12 to 15 I wish there was somewhere these little beasts could go, those are the terrible years.  Around 16 or so they seem to bounce back some, not all of the way, but enough to where you can obtain some civility.  Oh the joys of parenthood....