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Religious Exclamations

Started by DirtyLeo, February 25, 2011, 10:56:18 AM

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Extropian

AnimatedDirt writes; It astounds me how easy the point is missed and the "logic" of illogic is proclaimed.

Then you are astounded by trivialities. Your point is so easily missed because it stems from typical theistic superficiality.

Your claiming of special status for the objects of theist derision carries an air of desperation with it by now for the claim has been refuted from several directions by those whom you accuse.

There is a kind of childish ingenuousness in asserting your figments have special powers and then assert in addition that atheists involuntarily appeal to those powers when using them as figures of derision.

Both assertions are unsupported, they carry no credibility. Atheists by definition are convinced your figments have no special powers, are convinced that these figments exist only in your imagination and the imaginations of others of your ilk.

By blaspheming, atheists demonstrate your figments to be powerless, the emptiness of your theological compulsion soon will draw derision down on you.

You may assert as you have until you are black in the face, for the rest of your life, and nothing more will emerge than an unsubstantiated statement of belief/faith. It's a condition you can never escape from no matter the constancy of your belief or faith.

There's no doubt you can see the indefensibility of your position. It is obvious from the fact that you repeat your stance over and over with nothing to support it. Your irrational beliefs prevent you from admitting it. Thay's what I meant when I said "........you can mever escape........."

Extropian
Few nations have been so poor as to have but one god. Gods were made so easily, and the raw material cost so little, that generally the god market was fairly glutted and heaven crammed with these phantoms.
Robert Green Ingersoll
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Stevil

I try to avoid saying religious based swear words. Not out of fear of committing sin. I have have no sin, and cannot commit sin for I have no god and hence cannot sin against said god.

The reason I don't swear religiously is because I know it has an influence on people. We all are influenced by each other and are able to easily pick up bad habbits. If I swear using God or Jesus Christ, i know there is a chance that a Christian may hear me and that their brain may subconsciously store that performance away and then later when they bang their finger or something which provokes an immeadiatly auto verbal response, then they might find themselves doing it. They would then feel all guilty and have to go to confession. Take two hail maries and hope god forgives them in the morning.

So, really, out of respect for Christians, I do try to avoid it.

I had a boss once who was very sarcastic all the time. After a while I find myself acting that way, so I quit my job and moved on. So I know how it feels to pick up bad habbits.

LegendarySandwich

Quote from: "AnimatedDirt"Again...this is not to say Atheists cannot use these, by all means continue, the point is that BY using these, you appeal to something you don't believe in.  If *you are comfortable in this, that in my opinion and that of many, goes totally opposite of *your world view and all claims therein, then please continue.
I will, thank you.

Byronazriel

"You are trying to understand madness with logic. This is not unlike searching for darkness with a torch." -Jervis Tetch

xSilverPhinx

If the religious can use exclamations such as "Oh my god" which borders on using the god word in vain why can't I use it too? :hmm:
I am what survives if it's slain - Zack Hemsey


AnimatedDirt

Quote from: "xSilverPhinx"If the religious can use exclamations such as "Oh my god" which borders on using the god word in vain why can't I use it too? :hmm:
You can.

xSilverPhinx

Quote from: "AnimatedDirt"
Quote from: "xSilverPhinx"If the religious can use exclamations such as "Oh my god" which borders on using the god word in vain why can't I use it too? :D

The religious aspect is one I hardly ever even think about, when using phrases like OMG, 'go to hell' 'heaven on Earth' and that sort of thing. I even use the word angel on occasion, not that I mean a supernatural being when I use it. Those things are purely semantically adopted phrases that are already circling around.

I guess some religious people take slight opposition to their usage just as some atheists don't really like the words 'spirituality', and 'soul' I guess, and see them as overly loaded words.
I am what survives if it's slain - Zack Hemsey


AnimatedDirt

Quote from: "xSilverPhinx"The religious aspect is one I hardly ever even think about, when using phrases like OMG, 'go to hell' 'heaven on Earth' and that sort of thing. I even use the word angel on occasion, not that I mean a supernatural being when I use it. Those things are purely semantically adopted phrases that are already circling around.
The question/point remains;  If it is true that the Atheist/Free Thinkers are of higher intelligence (and it is what *you all promote), why do *you lower yourself to the use of "sematically adopted phrases" that are a call to a higher power?  Why would the higher intelligence adopt phrases from the lower intelligence?  Using these puts *you on the same deluded and brainwashed plane as those that *you put down.  It's like *you can't grow up and all the while poking fun at others just like *you.  Is it that those of higher intelligence cannot conceive of exclamations that do not include the fairy tale God?

LegendarySandwich

Quote from: "AnimatedDirt"
Quote from: "xSilverPhinx"The religious aspect is one I hardly ever even think about, when using phrases like OMG, 'go to hell' 'heaven on Earth' and that sort of thing. I even use the word angel on occasion, not that I mean a supernatural being when I use it. Those things are purely semantically adopted phrases that are already circling around.
The question/point remains;  If it is true that the Atheist/Free Thinkers are of higher intelligence (and it is what *you all promote), why do *you lower yourself to the use of "sematically adopted phrases" that are a call to a higher power?  Why would the higher intelligence adopt phrases from the lower intelligence?  Using these puts *you on the same deluded and brainwashed plane as those that *you put down.  It's like *you can't grow up and all the while poking fun at others just like *you.  Is it that those of higher intelligence cannot conceive of exclamations that do not include the fairy tale God?
Because I'm a stupid idiot that has to stoop to your level when I speak, clearly.

AnimatedDirt

Quote from: "LegendarySandwich"Because I'm a stupid idiot that has to stoop to your level when I speak, clearly.
It is as you say...

Davin

Quote from: "AnimatedDirt"The question/point remains;  If it is true that the Atheist/Free Thinkers are of higher intelligence (and it is what *you all promote), why do *you lower yourself to the use of "sematically adopted phrases" that are a call to a higher power?  Why would the higher intelligence adopt phrases from the lower intelligence?  Using these puts *you on the same deluded and brainwashed plane as those that *you put down.  It's like *you can't grow up and all the while poking fun at others just like *you.  Is it that those of higher intelligence cannot conceive of exclamations that do not include the fairy tale God?
What is your point here? That smarter people shouldn't use phrases that lesser intelligent people use? Could you please just get your point and reasoning out?
Always question all authorities because the authority you don't question is the most dangerous... except me, never question me.

AnimatedDirt

Quote from: "Davin"
Quote from: "AnimatedDirt"The question/point remains;  If it is true that the Atheist/Free Thinkers are of higher intelligence (and it is what *you all promote), why do *you lower yourself to the use of "sematically adopted phrases" that are a call to a higher power?  Why would the higher intelligence adopt phrases from the lower intelligence?  Using these puts *you on the same deluded and brainwashed plane as those that *you put down.  It's like *you can't grow up and all the while poking fun at others just like *you.  Is it that those of higher intelligence cannot conceive of exclamations that do not include the fairy tale God?
What is your point here? That smarter people shouldn't use phrases that lesser intelligent people use? Could you please just get your point and reasoning out?
You tell me.  I thought I had.

Whitney's position is correct and the logical position for her stance/worldview.

Davin

Quote from: "AnimatedDirt"
Quote from: "Davin"
Quote from: "AnimatedDirt"The question/point remains;  If it is true that the Atheist/Free Thinkers are of higher intelligence (and it is what *you all promote), why do *you lower yourself to the use of "sematically adopted phrases" that are a call to a higher power?  Why would the higher intelligence adopt phrases from the lower intelligence?  Using these puts *you on the same deluded and brainwashed plane as those that *you put down.  It's like *you can't grow up and all the while poking fun at others just like *you.  Is it that those of higher intelligence cannot conceive of exclamations that do not include the fairy tale God?
What is your point here? That smarter people shouldn't use phrases that lesser intelligent people use? Could you please just get your point and reasoning out?
You tell me.
Smarter people shouldn't use phrases that lesser intelligent people use? That is a question to you because you said it, so you tell me.

Quote from: "AnimatedDirt"I thought I had.
Not sure you did, you stopped responding to me.

Quote from: "AnimatedDirt"Whitney's position is correct and the logical position for her stance/worldview.
So is mine where I don't care what the exclamation is in the same way I don't care about religion. Logical position: I don't care about religion or language, so I don't care what I or other people use for exclamations.
Always question all authorities because the authority you don't question is the most dangerous... except me, never question me.

AnimatedDirt

Quote from: "Davin"Smarter people shouldn't use phrases that lesser intelligent people use? That is a question to you because you said it, so you tell me.
The point is exactly as stated.
Quote from: "Davin"Not sure you did, you stopped responding to me.
I'm not sure what you're speaking of here.
Quote from: "Davin"So is mine where I don't care what the exclamation is in the same way I don't care about religion. Logical position: I don't care about religion or language, so I don't care what I or other people use for exclamations.
So you believe in the Abrahamic God, that He exists and does have omni-powers, that He is the Creator of this universe...?

Davin

Quote from: "AnimatedDirt"
Quote from: "Davin"Smarter people shouldn't use phrases that lesser intelligent people use? That is a question to you because you said it, so you tell me.
The point is exactly as stated.
Is there any logical reasoning behind why smart people shouldn't use phrases that people who aren't as smart as them use?

Quote from: "AnimatedDirt"
Quote from: "Davin"Not sure you did, you stopped responding to me.
I'm not sure what you're speaking of here.
I'm speaking about this.

Quote from: "AnimatedDirt"
Quote from: "Davin"So is mine where I don't care what the exclamation is in the same way I don't care about religion. Logical position: I don't care about religion or language, so I don't care what I or other people use for exclamations.
So you believe in the Abrahamic God, that He exists and does have omni-powers, that He is the Creator of this universe...?
No. Where did that question come from? How does not believing in any god or gods make my position any less logical?
Always question all authorities because the authority you don't question is the most dangerous... except me, never question me.