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Atheists, what would make you change your mind?

Started by Asmodean Prime, July 11, 2006, 10:26:55 AM

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Asmodean Prime

i was just wondering what, if anything, would cause you to consider God as having a valid claim on your life?  do you think you are forever set in your ways, beliefwise?    well, some of you said you did believe at one point, so you have changed your beliefs at least ONCE.

so what would make you change you mind again?  maybe if you only had one day left to live?

yes, i know, as i said before, death is certainly a big consideration for me, and i am fearful of dying, but death IS a scary and unfathomable thing to me.

just the other week, a good workmate of mine died when he fell downstairs at home and broke his neck.  he was 41, strong as an ox.  he wasnt a christian, but a good workmate who i respected a lot.  now he's gone, just like that.

my parents are dead, my brother died in an explosion aged 17, so yes, death has had quite an impact in my life, and its something that we cant completely ignore, nor should  we dwell excessively on it either, but it does deserve at least some consideration for each one of us.  but death is not the only motivating factor in my beliefs. far from it.

but since you atheists dont seem to have or want any of those other factors (faith, love, hope, thankfulness to God), etc, i was wondering if there was anything that would cause you to consider again?

by the way, how am i SUPPOSED to post answers on here?  Do i READ a question in one forum, and answer it in another, or answer it in the section that it was first posted?  just wondering what the standard rule is.

TwistOfCain

#1
Before I get to the rest of my post...what makes you think that atheists have no love or hope? How DARE you imply that without your piddling mistake of a religion, we can't feel love for our fellow man and hope for the future? Nothing gives you that right.

And what would make me consider changing my mind? Proof! That's what I want! Don't give me lovey dovey pictures of Heaven and threats of eternal torture! Give me proof! Show me something concrete!
Not about to see your light
But if you wanna find Hell with me
I can show you what it's like.
-Danzig, Mother

"I AM THOTH! AND I WILL NOT BE HUMBLED -- BY MAN OR GOD!"
-Thoth-Amon, The Book of Thoth

Asmodean Prime

#2
yeah, twist of cain, didnt mean to imply it that way.  what i meant was you have no love for God, or hope in Him - things related to faith!  not your outlook in general.

i should have tried to explain it better, sorry about that.

by the way, where's the rest of your posting, which you didn;t get to yet?

TwistOfCain

#3
Sorry, I snapped. I probably should have understood it. The rest of my post was that second paragraph.
Not about to see your light
But if you wanna find Hell with me
I can show you what it's like.
-Danzig, Mother

"I AM THOTH! AND I WILL NOT BE HUMBLED -- BY MAN OR GOD!"
-Thoth-Amon, The Book of Thoth

Court

#4
Listen, if you could give proof that the god of the bible exists, I probably still wouldn't worship him. The bible depicts a sick, sadistic, sexist prick whom I would view the same way as I view my father: How the hell did I come from that?
Yeah, I would believe in him if logic compelled me to, but I could never praise the bible's god. And I certainly wouldn't look forward to the hereafter, considering both those options sound pretty awful.

PS-This is totally my favorite xtian question...I always wonder why they ask it. Do they think if they can just get the answer, they can provide whatever it is?
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Court

#5
Quote from: "TwistOfCain"Sorry, I snapped. I probably should have understood it. The rest of my post was that second paragraph.

Don't worry, I kind of read it the same way, but I was going to give him the benefit of doubt. :)
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Big Mac

#6
I want God to give me a Red Ryder BB gun for Christmas, then I'll believe in him. No foolies!
Quote from: "PoopShoot"And what if pigs shit candy?

Asmodean Prime

#7
Hello...can you say CASH?  Everyone knows atheists' beliefs can be bought off.  If no cash is involved, then damn it, you'll have to provide proof...the word Christians hate more than anything.  Tell you what...you provide one documented case of your God healing an amputee, and you will have my full attention.  Until you can prove to me that your god does not have a special hatred for those that have lost their limbs, forget about it.  He seems quite willing to rescue you, and cure others of their illnesses, so why he so vehemently hates amputees is beyond me.  Once you cross that threshold, I will give you my undivided attention.

Court

#8
Just so you get that reference, onlyme: www.whywontgodhealamputees.com
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Asmodean Prime

#9
yes i looked at the website about amputees.
how do you know God has never healed an amputee, though?

in the bible He even raised the dead, which He said He would do again to all of us at the last day, if you will believe that.

i know nothing much seems to be happening to convince a lot of people at the moment, but that doesnt mean its not going to happen.

look as well at all the prophecies in the bible which are clearly coming true these days, these have been well documented and examined, and a growing number of people are begnning to realise that something is indeed beginning to happen, and that it was foretold.

Big Mac

#10
Uh, yeah, whatever. In the Bible it also says to ravish the women of your enemies' camp. And that a raped woman must wed her rapist. Lovely, isn't it?
Quote from: "PoopShoot"And what if pigs shit candy?

Court

#11
Quote from: "Big Mac"And that a raped woman must wed her rapist. Lovely, isn't it?

Ugh, it says that? I swear, if any of the pricks who wrote that crap were still alive, I would definitely learn how to use a gun.
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Asmodean Prime

#12
And that a raped woman must wed her rapist. Lovely, isn't it?

where does it say that, Big Mac?

Big Mac

#13
Quote from: "onlyme"And that a raped woman must wed her rapist. Lovely, isn't it?

where does it say that, Big Mac?

I'm going to work right now, however I will be off tonight and I will find the passage, it states clearly that. You should read Levictus more closely.
Quote from: "PoopShoot"And what if pigs shit candy?

Asmodean Prime

#14
where does it say that, Big Mac?