Memory quote for my thesis (Please vote!)

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I voted because I couldn't remember a better one.

Heh!

[xSilverPhinx]

I like the Gibson quote best. It resonates with more truth to me than the others.

[Biggus Dickus]

Dewey received one of my votes, and I would have given Gibson the other, but since we could also choose one of our own I wanted to add one I have always loved by Mr. Cohen.

"And I'll dance with you in Vienna,
I'll be wearing a river's disguise.
The hyacinth wild on my shoulder
my mouth on the dew of your thighs.
And I'll bury my soul in a scrapbook,
with the photographs there and the moss.
And I'll yield to the flood of your beauty,
my cheap violin and my cross."

― Leonard Cohen, Stranger Music: Selected Poems and Songs

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what is your thesis about?

Hello billy rubin, I don't think we've met yet.  Welcome to the forum!

My thesis is on memory (), specifically systems consolidation and loss of memory precision/memory generalisation that accompanies that process. My work focuses on the role of the hippocampus (mostly as a control, the role of the hippocampus in systems consolidation has been well described in the literature), entorhinal cortex ("relay station" between the hippocampus and neocortex) and posterior parietal cortex (neocortex). My aim is to see which area is being recruited to express a memory at certain time intervals.

'But what on Earth is the point of that?' I can almost hear you say. Well, systems consolidation is important to understand a little on what goes on in Alzheimer's disease, and both systems consolidation and memory generalisation are implicated in PTSD.

But I won't ramble on. As you can probably see I enjoy this subject very much and would drone on and on if I don't stop myself. 

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And Gibson takes the lead!  I'll be honest, I found the Lewis Carroll quote scary.

Indeed! 

I got that quote from a Netflix series, 'Explaining the Mind' I think. In episode one, on memory, they mention that memory not only stores past events in our minds but also informs future events. Such is the case that people with extreme anterograde amnesia, that is, who can't form new long-lasting memories, also have trouble planning for the future. They're basically stuck in the present moment.   

Like the Gibson quote it has the element of time, which has everything to do with my methodology. 

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Dewey received one of my votes, and I would have given Gibson the other, but since we could also choose one of our own I wanted to add one I have always loved by Mr. Cohen.

"And I'll dance with you in Vienna,
I'll be wearing a river's disguise.
The hyacinth wild on my shoulder
my mouth on the dew of your thighs.
And I'll bury my soul in a scrapbook,
with the photographs there and the moss.
And I'll yield to the flood of your beauty,
my cheap violin and my cross."

― Leonard Cohen, Stranger Music: Selected Poems and Songs

Who knew Leonard Cohen was such a poet.

[Ecurb Noselrub]

Who know Leonard Cohen was such a poet.

Canadians and USAians.

[xSilverPhinx]

Who know Leonard Cohen was such a poet.

Canadians and USAians.

Ok, that's quite a lot of people!

[billy rubin]

what is your thesis about?

Hello billy rubin, I don't think we've met yet.  Welcome to the forum!

My thesis is on memory (), specifically systems consolidation and loss of memory precision/memory generalisation that accompanies that process. My work focuses on the role of the hippocampus (mostly as a control, the role of the hippocampus in systems consolidation has been well described in the literature), entorhinal cortex ("relay station" between the hippocampus and neocortex) and posterior parietal cortex (neocortex). My aim is to see which area is being recruited to express a memory at certain time intervals.

'But what on Earth is the point of that?' I can almost hear you say. Well, systems consolidation is important to understand a little on what goes on in Alzheimer's disease, and both systems consolidation and memory generalisation are implicated in PTSD.

But I won't ramble on. As you can probably see I enjoy this subject very much and would drone on and on if I don't stop myself. 

lol

i dont know jack about neurophysiology.

but i have heard that exercise increases consolidation because it results in tissue growth in the hippocampus. is this a function of protein synthesis?

where is memory located?

[xSilverPhinx]

what is your thesis about?

Hello billy rubin, I don't think we've met yet.  Welcome to the forum!

My thesis is on memory (), specifically systems consolidation and loss of memory precision/memory generalisation that accompanies that process. My work focuses on the role of the hippocampus (mostly as a control, the role of the hippocampus in systems consolidation has been well described in the literature), entorhinal cortex ("relay station" between the hippocampus and neocortex) and posterior parietal cortex (neocortex). My aim is to see which area is being recruited to express a memory at certain time intervals.

'But what on Earth is the point of that?' I can almost hear you say. Well, systems consolidation is important to understand a little on what goes on in Alzheimer's disease, and both systems consolidation and memory generalisation are implicated in PTSD.

But I won't ramble on. As you can probably see I enjoy this subject very much and would drone on and on if I don't stop myself. 

lol

i dont know jack about neurophysiology.

but i have heard that exercise increases consolidation because it results in tissue growth in the hippocampus. is this a function of protein synthesis?

where is memory located?

Heh, me neither, but I love learning about neurophysiology!

Weeeell, whether neurogenesis occurs in humans is more or less still a matter of debate. The differentiation, maturation and migration of new nerve cells have been seen and described in rodent models but apparently not in primates. Last time I checked, it has never been seen in humans, not even ex vivo. But I not completely up to date on the topic so I won't say for sure. Sometimes I believe it does occur but other times, I don't.

But yeah, in rodents exercise, especially if chronic, does increase neurogenesis and neuronal plasticity, which is a function of protein synthesis, especially neurotrophic factors.

Where is memory located. That is the question of the century. Most likely many regions participate in memory but which are the dominant regions will depend on the type of memory on qualities of that memory, such as how old the memory is, how emotionally charged that memory is, etc. The hippocampus plays a key role in forming new declarative and spatial memories, but it does not "store" older semantic memories (some say it works as more like an indexer than a repository for older semantic memories). Procedural memories, such as knowing how to ride a bike, depend a lot more on the striatum and cerebellum. Working memory (very short-term memory) does not leave a physical trace but we know it's an executive function, dependant on the prefrontal cortex. And so on.

[billy rubin]

obviously memory has different meanings. working memory is a new category for me.

maze memory would be different from semantic, obviously. thats what youre calliing procedural, or spatial? what about muscle memory, like pole vaulting or shooting a gun?

so if youre not doing neurophysiology, what is your focus? anatomy? psychology and behaviour? medicine?

where are you going with your life?

not trying to pry. its just that people make me curious.

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obviously memory has different meanings. working memory is a new category for me.

maze memory would be different from semantic, obviously. thats what youre calliing procedural, or spatial? what about muscle memory, like pole vaulting or shooting a gun?

so if youre not doing neurophysiology, what is your focus? anatomy? psychology and behaviour? medicine?

where are you going with your life?

not trying to pry. its just that people make me curious.

Working memory would be analogous to a computer's RAM, but like all analogies, it's a limited comparison.

No, maze memory would be spatial memory and semantic is one type of explicit memory whereas procedural memory is implicit. Muscle memory would be procedural. Riding a bike, driving a car, pole vaulting and shooting a gun are largely procedural.

One of the most famous cases in the neuroscience of memory is that of Patient H.M. He was in his early twenties when he underwent surgery to have both sides of his hippocampus removed, due to debilitating seizures. After the surgery, he no longer suffered from epilepsy, but he couldn't form new declarative memories, though older memories were still intact. He also learnt how to draw a star while looking at his drawing in a mirror  -- a difficult task that involves procedural memory --  though he didn't remember ever having practiced. It's an interesting case. Though Patient H.M. (Henry Molaison) is no longer alive, the neuroscientist Brenda Milner who studied him still is (she's 101 now). She even wrote a book on the case, one I intend to buy. If you're into that stuff check it out.

I work mainly with neuropharmacology, though my research project involves neurobiology, anatomy and behaviour as well.

Where I'm going with my life is a good question. Science in Brazil (where I live) is being systematically assassinated, so I don't have a clue, really. I just really like research.

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What about the misty colored ones?

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What about the misty colored ones?

I'm not sure I know what you mean...misty coloured what?

Do you mean forgetting?