Memory quote for my thesis (Please vote!)

[billy rubin]

thats interesting.

if memory is a record of past events that made zome sort of electrochemical imprezzion in my brain, what iz going on when i remember things wrong?

how do wrong memories get produced?

im azsuming dreams get stored as if they were real. i mean things like how i remember putting my half inch socket wrench back in the drawer, but there it is on tbe bench instead.

[xSilverPhinx]

thats interesting.

if memory is a record of past events that made zome sort of electrochemical imprezzion in my brain, what iz going on when i remember things wrong?

how do wrong memories get produced?

im azsuming dreams get stored as if they were real. i mean things like how i remember putting my half inch socket wrench back in the drawer, but there it is on tbe bench instead.

Why iz you writing like that? 

Anyway...

Consolidated memories are not static. They lose contextual details, some can be reconsolidated and change, they can be interfered with to create false memories. It depends on the memory.

Reconsolidated memories are memories that incorporate new information. They are updated. For some memories, just recalling an event is enough to make that memory labile and susceptible to change. There are some situations called 'boundary conditions' that do not facilitate the memory becoming labile though, such as the age and strength of a memory.

When contextually-rich memories undergo systems consolidation, there is a shift from dependence on the hippocampus to being mostly dependent on the neocortex for their retrieval. Connections between neurons in the neocortex are sparser than in the hippocampus, and so there is a higher level of integration within the hippocampus when compared to the neocortex. When memories "migrate" (I use the term very loosely) from the hippocampus to the neocortex they lose contextual precision.

What happens then? Well, in stress disorders such as PTSD, neutral events, objects, etc. can trigger a traumatic memory. It's not that it's become a false memory, but has lost contextual precision. It's not that sufferers have forgotten the circumstances of the event -- loss of memory precision is not forgetting -- but the associations which trigger the pathological traumatic memory have become a bit of a mess.

It's relatively easy to produce false memory. Just look at all those problematic court cases in which eyewitnesses were led to believe an innocent person was the perpetrator of a crime. Or in the case of suggestible people constructing entire memories in their heads of life events that never happened, during hypnosis sessions. Time alone can tinker with memories as well, as in the case of loss of memory precision.

Don't trust your memory.

As for dreams, I assume that is the case, but I'm not sure. What I do know is that we dream during REM sleep and if you compare the brain waves of someone in that sleep phase and someone who's wide awake, they are virtually the same. It may be simplistic of me to say, but I assume dreams, if remembered, are consolidation in much the same way.

[billy rubin]

fascinating.

dont mind the typos. iwhen i type on a full- size keyboard i do better, but on a telephone im pushing buttons 6mm across with fingers that measure closer to 15mm.

combine that with image text sized at 3 points and you have a recipe for error that exceeds my abilities.

spelling is pretty fluid anyway. not so long ago in english text was generated according to local phonetics, and spelling wasnt fixed. look at the different spellings for british names up to the 16th century, for example.

[xSilverPhinx]

fascinating.

dont mind the typos. iwhen i type on a full- size keyboard i do better, but on a telephone im pushing buttons 6mm across with fingers that measure closer to 15mm.

combine that with image text sized at 3 points and you have a recipe for error that exceeds my abilities.

spelling is pretty fluid anyway. not so long ago in english text was generated according to local phonetics, and spelling wasnt fixed. look at the different spellings for british names up to the 16th century, for example.

Ok I hate typing on the phone precisely for that reason. That and the autocorrect elf living inside my phone who trolls me every opportunity he has.



Yeah! I read about that a few days ago. 'Shakespeare' comes in many varieties.  It's very odd spelling one's name in different ways when considering today's ways.

[Michael1]

Collective memory becomes common history. Individual memory becomes a reference.

-God

Ok that had no swing to it

[xSilverPhinx]

Collective memory becomes common history. Individual memory becomes a reference.

-God

Ok that had no swing to it

That's good, God

[xSilverPhinx]

Well, Gibson's quote it is!

Thanks, all.