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Am I the only conservative here?

Started by Steeler, August 02, 2016, 04:35:20 AM

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Tank

Like Gloucester I pick and mix based on what I see as the right thing to do. Take nuclear weapons for example. I support the UK having nuclear weapons 100%. But I am not convinced that ballistic missile subs are the way to deliver them, except in a retaliatory strike. I could even get on board with the 'Nukes in the cupboard' option like Japan. In that case there are no assembled nukes in Japan but they have all the expertise and material to make one in a matter of months. In the UK we could disassemble all bar a handful of nukes and if needed start to reassemble them in times of tension. That would send a very strong message to any potential adversary. 
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OldGit

I'm UKIP - that's a pretty right-wing populist, lot.

Davin

I don't really give a shit about conservative or liberal, or even political parties. It's fine if the label is applied as a descriptor, but most people seem to use them more prescriptively instead of descriptively. They take sides and close their minds to the side they didn't choose often to a ridiculous and/or hilarious effect. So much confirmation bias, so many straw men, so many other fallacies, and so much irrational hate.

When I vote for and talk about political shit, I don't take sides based on political parties or the faulty conservative/liberal dichotomy. Some things need to stay the same, a lot of things need to change, but hardly anything needs to be regressed. Because of my views, I often conflict with liberals and conservatives. In the US liberals have a slightly higher tendency to say things that are true while conservatives are more prone to pulling "facts" from their asses. Just take a look at where the line is drawn when it comes to global warming.
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Magdalena

Quote from: xSilverPhinx on August 02, 2016, 07:03:33 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on August 02, 2016, 04:52:25 AM
He "experimented" with us! Can you believe that! He's got a lot of nerve!  :foottap:

Yeah! Don't we need to sign a consent form first? :popcorn:

I think so.  :notsure:
Did you get one?

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Ecurb Noselrub

I'm conservative on some issues, liberal on others, centrist on others.  On average, a centrist.  I've got no problem with gun ownership under the Second Amendment.  The vast majority of American citizens who own guns do so responsibly. There are crazies and criminals, and I'm fine with restricting their right to own.  I'm conservative in the sense that I think the debt should be reduced and we shouldn't spend more than we can bring in.  That's just good management.  I do think we ought to have a secure border, just like I have a secure front door to my home.  But I'm not anti-immigrant.  We all came from somewhere.  I think taxes on the middle class and below should not be raised.  I've no problem with higher taxes on the upper 1%.  So, I'm a mixed bag.

Guardian85

I also do the "mixed bag" approach to politics. But I generally fall somewhere on the libertarian left.


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Bad Penny II

"Am I the only conservative here?"

Depends on what you're trying to conserve.

Attempting to keep the planet fit for human habitation isn't conservative for some conservatives.
I think it is.

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Dave

QuoteDepends on what you're trying to conserve.

I'm a mango chutneyist, does that count?
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Bad Penny II

Quote from: Gloucester on August 02, 2016, 04:23:43 PM
QuoteDepends on what you're trying to conserve.

I'm a mango chutneyist, does that count?

Certainly it does, I'd ask you to send me a jar but it's nots practical.
I jar a chunky pasta sauce and a sweet and sour.
Take my advice, don't listen to me.

Asmodean

Quote from: Guardian85 on August 02, 2016, 03:46:28 PM
I also do the "mixed bag" approach to politics. But I generally fall somewhere on the libertarian left.
Do we have Libertarianism represented in leftist Norwegian politics..? Because our left is sort of heavy on the whole one for all concept, which by its very nature encroaches on maximizing personal freedom..?
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Steeler

I know it gets a little mushy when comparing a US conservative to conservatives from overseas. I'm assuming it does anyway.
I've taken a bazillion political quizzes and always seem to fall just right of center. Probably what moves me towards center are religious views and abortion, neither of which I really give much of a hoot about.

Steeler

Davin, you seem angry. Like always. Or is it just me that gets you that way?

Davin

Quote from: Steeler on August 02, 2016, 08:21:15 PM
Davin, you seem angry. Like always. Or is it just me that gets you that way?
Not angry at all, if you detect any emotion in my writing that I do not inform you of, then you are in error. I highly doubt that you can affect my emotional state in any way.
Always question all authorities because the authority you don't question is the most dangerous... except me, never question me.

Asmodean

Quote from: Steeler on August 02, 2016, 08:21:15 PM
Davin, you seem angry. Like always. Or is it just me that gets you that way?

Quote from: Davin on August 02, 2016, 08:34:36 PM
Quote from: Steeler on August 02, 2016, 08:21:15 PM
Davin, you seem angry. Like always. Or is it just me that gets you that way?
Not angry at all, if you detect any emotion in my writing that I do not inform you of, then you are in error. I highly doubt that you can affect my emotional state in any way.

He eats veggie-Asmos too.  >:( Totally disrespectful.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Davin

Quote from: Asmodean on August 02, 2016, 09:24:07 PM
He eats veggie-Asmos too.  >:( Totally disrespectful.
I didn't think you'd mind me devouring false Asmos.
Always question all authorities because the authority you don't question is the most dangerous... except me, never question me.