Am I the only conservative here?

[xSilverPhinx]

He "experimented" with us! Can you believe that! He's got a lot of nerve! 

Yeah! Don't we need to sign a consent form first?

I think so. 
Did you get one?

It was probably lost in the mail.

I blame it on an experimental new delivery system.

[Magdalena]

He "experimented" with us! Can you believe that! He's got a lot of nerve! 

Yeah! Don't we need to sign a consent form first?

I think so. 
Did you get one?

It was probably lost in the mail.

I blame it on an experimental new delivery system.

[Asmodean]

He eats veggie-Asmos too.  Totally disrespectful.

I didn't think you'd mind me devouring false Asmos.

And what's a proper The Asmo to eat? rattie droppings?! 

EDIT: This, by the way, is SO in line with my general viewpoint when it comes to people rushing to defend their poor little gods. If your god is toothless enough to need you to defend it against me, then why would I even consider making it my god too?  Never really got a proper response to this challenge.

[Harmonie]

Since in the US, the current Conservative party is heavily, heavily influenced by religion, I don't think it's a stretch or bias to say more US atheists are liberal. Between that and the other horrible sexist, racist policy the party is currently spewing I distance myself from anything approaching affiliation. But if you took out the religion and bigotry I'd probably be pretty middle of the road...

Add homophobia and transphobia to that, and that's exactly why I can not even begin to even think of affiliating myself with the Republican/conservative party. I find it sickening that we have a party built on these (not that the Democrat party is perfect) and it's just treated like it's all a-okay, that these positions are valid sides, that they are something to be proud of, that they are something to be legislated. It's disgusting. Or perhaps I should say it's frightening.

[Essie Mae]

I don't really give a shit about conservative or liberal, or even political parties. It's fine if the label is applied as a descriptor, but most people seem to use them more prescriptively instead of descriptively. They take sides and close their minds to the side they didn't choose often to a ridiculous and/or hilarious effect. So much confirmation bias, so many straw men, so many other fallacies, and so much irrational hate.

When I vote for and talk about political shit, I don't take sides based on political parties or the faulty conservative/liberal dichotomy. Some things need to stay the same, a lot of things need to change, but hardly anything needs to be regressed. Because of my views, I often conflict with liberals and conservatives. In the US liberals have a slightly higher tendency to say things that are true while conservatives are more prone to pulling "facts" from their asses. Just take a look at where the line is drawn when it comes to global warming.

Well said Davin; very articulate, and although I think you are clear and firm, you don't sound angry to me.

[Davin]

He eats veggie-Asmos too.  Totally disrespectful.

I didn't think you'd mind me devouring false Asmos.

And what's a proper The Asmo to eat? rattie droppings?! 

EDIT: This, by the way, is SO in line with my general viewpoint when it comes to people rushing to defend their poor little gods. If your god is toothless enough to need you to defend it against me, then why would I even consider making it my god too?  Never really got a proper response to this challenge.

Hey now, I'm not defending you, just thought you wouldn't mind is all. But I also agree, any god that can't defend itself is not a worthy god.

Another thing I don't get about gods are the envious types, I mean if a god sees something someone else has and gets envious instead of getting that thing, then it's not much of a god to respect.

Since in the US, the current Conservative party is heavily, heavily influenced by religion, I don't think it's a stretch or bias to say more US atheists are liberal. Between that and the other horrible sexist, racist policy the party is currently spewing I distance myself from anything approaching affiliation. But if you took out the religion and bigotry I'd probably be pretty middle of the road...

Add homophobia and transphobia to that, and that's exactly why I can not even begin to even think of affiliating myself with the Republican/conservative party. I find it sickening that we have a party built on these (not that the Democrat party is perfect) and it's just treated like it's all a-okay, that these positions are valid sides, that they are something to be proud of, that they are something to be legislated. It's disgusting. Or perhaps I should say it's frightening.

Not to mention that a lot of Republicans and conservatives (and some Democrats too, just not near as many), have been trying to take away women's rights and women's health services.

I don't really give a shit about conservative or liberal, or even political parties. It's fine if the label is applied as a descriptor, but most people seem to use them more prescriptively instead of descriptively. They take sides and close their minds to the side they didn't choose often to a ridiculous and/or hilarious effect. So much confirmation bias, so many straw men, so many other fallacies, and so much irrational hate.

When I vote for and talk about political shit, I don't take sides based on political parties or the faulty conservative/liberal dichotomy. Some things need to stay the same, a lot of things need to change, but hardly anything needs to be regressed. Because of my views, I often conflict with liberals and conservatives. In the US liberals have a slightly higher tendency to say things that are true while conservatives are more prone to pulling "facts" from their asses. Just take a look at where the line is drawn when it comes to global warming.

Well said Davin; very articulate, and although I think you are clear and firm, you don't sound angry to me.

Thank you. I'm not sure what makes Steeler think I am angry, but I don't really care about it either.

[Asmodean]

Hey now, I'm not defending you, just thought you wouldn't mind is all. But I also agree, any god that can't defend itself is not a worthy god.

The last paragraph was of a very general variety, so in no way directed at you specifically. I was just reminded of my standing challenge to believers willing to "take up arms for their LORD"

Another thing I don't get about gods are the envious types, I mean if a god sees something someone else has and gets envious instead of getting that thing, then it's not much of a god to respect.

Exactly! Jealous of my Bentley? Think yourself a BETTER Bentley and BOOM! The tables hath turnethd. You're god, after all, are you not?!

[Steeler]

He eats veggie-Asmos too.  Totally disrespectful.

I didn't think you'd mind me devouring false Asmos.

And what's a proper The Asmo to eat? rattie droppings?! 

EDIT: This, by the way, is SO in line with my general viewpoint when it comes to people rushing to defend their poor little gods. If your god is toothless enough to need you to defend it against me, then why would I even consider making it my god too?  Never really got a proper response to this challenge.

Hey now, I'm not defending you, just thought you wouldn't mind is all. But I also agree, any god that can't defend itself is not a worthy god.

Another thing I don't get about gods are the envious types, I mean if a god sees something someone else has and gets envious instead of getting that thing, then it's not much of a god to respect.

Since in the US, the current Conservative party is heavily, heavily influenced by religion, I don't think it's a stretch or bias to say more US atheists are liberal. Between that and the other horrible sexist, racist policy the party is currently spewing I distance myself from anything approaching affiliation. But if you took out the religion and bigotry I'd probably be pretty middle of the road...

Add homophobia and transphobia to that, and that's exactly why I can not even begin to even think of affiliating myself with the Republican/conservative party. I find it sickening that we have a party built on these (not that the Democrat party is perfect) and it's just treated like it's all a-okay, that these positions are valid sides, that they are something to be proud of, that they are something to be legislated. It's disgusting. Or perhaps I should say it's frightening.

Not to mention that a lot of Republicans and conservatives (and some Democrats too, just not near as many), have been trying to take away women's rights and women's health services.

I don't really give a shit about conservative or liberal, or even political parties. It's fine if the label is applied as a descriptor, but most people seem to use them more prescriptively instead of descriptively. They take sides and close their minds to the side they didn't choose often to a ridiculous and/or hilarious effect. So much confirmation bias, so many straw men, so many other fallacies, and so much irrational hate.

When I vote for and talk about political shit, I don't take sides based on political parties or the faulty conservative/liberal dichotomy. Some things need to stay the same, a lot of things need to change, but hardly anything needs to be regressed. Because of my views, I often conflict with liberals and conservatives. In the US liberals have a slightly higher tendency to say things that are true while conservatives are more prone to pulling "facts" from their asses. Just take a look at where the line is drawn when it comes to global warming.

Well said Davin; very articulate, and although I think you are clear and firm, you don't sound angry to me.

Thank you. I'm not sure what makes Steeler think I am angry, but I don't really care about it either.

No biggy, it's just the way some of your replies look as compared to nearly everyone else. But it is text, hard to judge what someones emotional state is through that.
But like you said, I'm sure it's me that is in error. 

Sorry for the giant quote.

[Davin]

No biggy, it's just the way some of your replies look as compared to nearly everyone else. But it is text, hard to judge what someones emotional state is through that.
But like you said, I'm sure it's me that is in error. 

Sorry for the giant quote.

That doesn't explain anything. Because my posts are different I must be angry? That doesn't make sense.

[Ecurb Noselrub]

Some of your posts do seem a little angry, Davin, but you say you aren't so I believe you.  If I characterized your posts at times as "blunt" that would also fit, so I'll go with that.  At other times you seem happy and funny.  It's the deception of the printed word, that's all.

[Pasta Chick]

Forum etiquette tends to vary as far as quote-by-quote responses go... I tend to find them easier to follow and necessary in forms that encourage debate, and I use them as HAF has no rule against them... But there are forums where they are considered rude and banned.

I think some of these issues are worth being angry about. I may not be mad at a specific person but I am pretty goddamn pissed off about things like politicians who obviously do not understand the female reproductive system attempting to pass not only laws that outlaw what goes between my doctor and I, but actually criminalize natural miscarriages including the normal shedding of fertilized eggs during a period in the process.

[Davin]

Some of your posts do seem a little angry, Davin[...]

I get that, what I don't get is why some people's internal seeming is wrong.

If I characterized your posts at times as "blunt" that would also fit, so I'll go with that.  At other times you seem happy and funny.  It's the deception of the printed word, that's all.

Well, if there is nothing useful then I guess that's the end of it.

[Ecurb Noselrub]

Some of your posts do seem a little angry, Davin[...]

I get that, what I don't get is why some people's internal seeming is wrong.

Because we don't know you personally, and the usual indicators that evolved as part of our communication system (body language, voice inflection/volume, facial expression, etc.) are absent.  So when we read words, we project - "If I had said that, I probably would have some anger behind it").  Then we find we were wrong when the poster tells us he wasn't angry. It's just a process of getting to know another person's emotional state when we don't have the usual tools.

[Dave]

I suppose liberal sprinklings of emoticons helps indicate the mood. But that means no emoticons at all if you are being serious - even     usually inficates a bit of fun or irony.

Perhaps we need a new protocol, really seriously meant things having two asterisks at each end or something.

[Davin]

Forum etiquette tends to vary as far as quote-by-quote responses go... I tend to find them easier to follow and necessary in forms that encourage debate, and I use them as HAF has no rule against them... But there are forums where they are considered rude and banned.

I think some of these issues are worth being angry about. I may not be mad at a specific person but I am pretty goddamn pissed off about things like politicians who obviously do not understand the female reproductive system attempting to pass not only laws that outlaw what goes between my doctor and I, but actually criminalize natural miscarriages including the normal shedding of fertilized eggs during a period in the process.

There are a lot of things I think people should be angry about, and that is one of them. I also think that Republicans and conservatives should be angry about stupid their voted representatives make them all look. Because it's not just, "well that Mike Pence trying to make miscarriages a jailable offense sure is stupid and crazy." He was voted in and is a representative of and supported by the Republican party. My point is, it's not just him alone being stupid and hurting women, it's him being stupid and hurting women with the support of Republicans.

I know there are some Republican representatives that are smart and don't go around hurting people through legislation, and that's good and all, but if anything, that should make the reasonable ones even more angry that there are people like Cruz who does things like banning dildos.

I often wish I could get angry more easily. I don't see anything wrong with anger in itself. I do however feel a some pity for some people who still proudly wear the conservative or Republican badges, because they are willingly associating themselves with and supporting idiots that are harming them, the country, and the world.