How would you react in this situation?

[Whitney]

Anyone who doesn't understand why it is not appropriate to use "I feel sorry for your grandchildren" etc as part of an argument is free to ask another one of the mods to explain it to them...I'm not going to bother.

[Achronos]

This is "ammo" and a personal attack?  Isn't it the general concensus on this forum that the opposite is true, that being that "you" (an Atheist) came from a Christian family, but to say the opposite or insinuate the opposite is a personal attack?  It's a statement of fact, if we are being honest.  How can that be an attack or inappropriate.  Tank, in fact, did use his grandchild as an example of "normal and completely suprestition free"...to say he wasn't is contradictory to his words.

Brother I appreciate you defending me, but I wouldn't waste your time. You are trying to rationalize with someone who clearly wants me banished from the forum. Let their bitterness pervade.

Anyone who doesn't understand why it is not appropriate to use "I feel sorry for your grandchildren" etc as part of an argument is free to ask another one of the mods to explain it to them...I'm not going to bother.

If I recall correctly he tried to use them as a "weapon" in this discussion:

The fun thing about that is that when accosted by well meaning street missionaries I can take the piss out of them mercilessly and have a real laugh at their ignorance. My kids are all normal people and completely superstition free.

With the birth of my Grandson on the 29th Nov another generation of the superstition free has arrived and they may actually be able to deal with the real issues humanity faces rather than worrying about what an imaginary, mythological issues like going to paradise or hell.

I'm perfectly willing to leave them out of any further discussion, if he's willing to stop using them to attempt to "score points."  (Which, personally, I don't think his use of them accomplished much in this discussion.)

[hingedro]

When I sing about love and war
I don't really know what I'm saying
I've been in love and I've seen a lot of war
Seen a lot of people praying
They pray to Allah and they prey to the lord
But mostly they pray about love and war
Pray about love and war

I've seen a lot of young men go to war
And leave a lot of young brides waiting
I've watched them try to explain it to their kids
And seen a lot of them failing
They tried to tell them and they tried to explain
Why daddy won't ever come home again.
Daddy won't ever come home again
I said a lot of things that I can't take back
But I don't really know if I want to
There've been songs about love
I sang songs about war
Since the backstreets of Toronto
I sang for justice and I hit a bad chord
But I still try to sing about love and war
Sing about love and war

The saddest thing in the whole wide world
Is to break the heart of your lover
I made a mistake and I did it again
And we struggled to recover
Then I sang in anger, hit another bad chord
But I still try to sing about love and war
I've been in love and I've seen a lot of war
Seen a lot of people praying
They pray to Allah and they prey to the lord
But mostly they pray about love and war
Pray about love and war.

[Velma]

Achronos, your persecution complex is showing.

[Achronos]

I do have to say, though, that while contemplating Whitney's complaint here, a thought has come to mind: Tank had brought a sword to this discussion, and has attempted to use it freely, and yet Whitney complains when others have attacked him with swords, too. You should either treat this like an "appropriate discussion," and thus change your tone and approach, or you should be mindful that, just as you are permitted to make controversial claims and statements here in the "Religion" Forum, others are, too.

[Whitney]

I can't be everywhere at once and I point out things when I see them...there is a report button either use it or don't complain.  Not going to entertain persecution complexes especially when I've recently gotten after an atheist poster for acting like a troll.

[Velma]

This is a warning regarding the following post made by you: http://happyatheistforum.com/viewtopic. ... 943#p94943 .

Bringing Tank's grandchildren into this is way past the line where appropriate discussion ends.

btw, that was strike 2.

I think it was Tank who brought up his own grandchildren...

My kids are all normal people and completely superstition free. With the birth of my Grandson on the 29th Nov another generation of the superstition free has arrived and they may actually be able to deal with the real issues humanity faces rather than worrying about what an imaginary, mythological issues like going to paradise or hell.

SO?

It's never appropriate to use personal attacks to discuss a topic; Tank wasn't using his grandchildren within an example and in turn they were used a ammo for an emotionally charged response....doesn't fly here.

I do have to say, though, that while contemplating Whitney's complaint here, a thought has come to mind: Tank had brought a sword to this discussion, and has attempted to use it freely, and yet Whitney complains when others have attacked him with swords, too. You should either treat this like an "appropriate discussion," and thus change your tone and approach, or you should be mindful that, just as you are permitted to make controversial claims and statements here in the "Religion" Forum, others are, too.

What Whitney warned you for and what you claim you were warned for don't match up.  Like I said, your persecution complex is showing.  I'd have that checked if I were you.

[McQ]

I do have to say, though, that while contemplating Whitney's complaint here, a thought has come to mind: Tank had brought a sword to this discussion, and has attempted to use it freely, and yet Whitney complains when others have attacked him with swords, too. You should either treat this like an "appropriate discussion," and thus change your tone and approach, or you should be mindful that, just as you are permitted to make controversial claims and statements here in the "Religion" Forum, others are, too.

You are being treated as fairly as every other member on this forum. If you don't think so, then send Tank a PM and ask him privately, since you seem to think he is getting the kid glove treatment. Stop your own complaining, and don't attempt to tell Whitney how to run her forum. You are the last person who needs to be telling someone else here to make an adjustment in tone or approach, Achronos. You've been fairly warned already.

[Cite134]

What would you do if someone in your social circle claimed to be the Christ Eternal?

I'd probably laugh first.

[Cite134]

A second (if slightly off-topic) question; why do atheists refuse to bow before the Lord Jesus, when he has formally admitted his divinity?

Because, like many other myths, it is a story made by humans.

[Sophus]

Perhaps, you'll never believe. But from what I understand, your grandchildren being raised in an atheist environment may tend to be very open to the idea of God later on,

This is "ammo" and a personal attack?  Isn't it the general concensus on this forum that the opposite is true, that being that "you" (an Atheist) came from a Christian family, but to say the opposite or insinuate the opposite is a personal attack?  It's a statement of fact, if we are being honest.  How can that be an attack or inappropriate.  Tank, in fact, did use his grandchild as an example of "normal and completely suprestition free"...to say he wasn't is contradictory to his words.

Whoa, sorry Dirt, but if you're going to quote his words quote all of them:

Perhaps, you'll never believe. But from what I understand, your grandchildren being raised in an atheist environment may tend to be very open to the idea of God later on, perhaps because he/she might also experience "abusive, nasty, self-centered, arrogant, delusional" atheists. Your reaction and the majority posts I've seen here serve as an example of how bitter atheists can be in their lives, and actually the presence of this board really is a blessing in disguise.

[AnimatedDirt]

Anyone who doesn't understand why it is not appropriate to use "I feel sorry for your grandchildren" etc as part of an argument is free to ask another one of the mods to explain it to them...I'm not going to bother.

Not an exact quote.  I believe the quote is;

He created them, not the problem.
God pity your grandchildren.

I've read in a few threads of Atheists not liking, but appreciating the concern and well wishes from Christians that say, "Bless you".  I don't see this as any different or mean spirited from Achronos towards Tank or Tank's grandchildren.  Even if "God" isn't, the blessing is still meant for good and not harm.  To have pity is not a curse, but a call for abundant love to be shown.

[Whitney]

AD, this really isn't up for discussion..esp not in thread.  If you still have a problem with someone else being told to not use family as a tool to debate someone then you need to PM one of the other moderators.  If you continue this discussion in thread I'll just ban you for a week to help you get it.

[AnimatedDirt]

Whoa, sorry Dirt, but if you're going to quote his words quote all of them:

Perhaps, you'll never believe. But from what I understand, your grandchildren being raised in an atheist environment may tend to be very open to the idea of God later on, perhaps because he/she might also experience "abusive, nasty, self-centered, arrogant, delusional" atheists. Your reaction and the majority posts I've seen here serve as an example of how bitter atheists can be in their lives, and actually the presence of this board really is a blessing in disguise.

Thank you Sophus.  You are correct that is the whole quote.  However the point of Whitney's contention is not with the latter, where it speaks simply of the apparent bitterness of atheists, but with the former wehre it speaks of Tanks grandchildren specifically.

To further specify her point of contention, if you would refer to her last post (mis) quoting Achronos specifically.

Thanks though.  The whole quote is helpful.

[Whitney]

[strike:27x158fs]AD is on a one week ban for ignoring my post (he couldn't have posted without seeing it due to the new posts warning message).[/strike:27x158fs]