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Started by hingedro, December 18, 2010, 02:37:23 PM

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hingedro

A second (if slightly off-topic) question; why do atheists refuse to bow before the Lord Jesus, when he has formally admitted his divinity?

Velma

Quote from: "hingedro"A second (if slightly off-topic) question; why do atheists refuse to bow before the Lord Jesus, when he has formally admitted his divinity?
If I recall my history correct, Julius Caesar claimed divinity also.  Someone's claim to be divine means nothing.  

Before you go off on that tangent, you need to prove that the Jesus portrayed in your holy book even existed.
Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of the astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy.~Carl Sagan

Gawen

Quote from: "hingedro"A second (if slightly off-topic) question; why do atheists refuse to bow before the Lord Jesus, when he has formally admitted his divinity?
Formally? No one has introduced me to him yet. I've even invited him to tea several times.

Jesus is a no-show.

OTOH, what does this have to do with the topic at hand?
The essence of the mind is not in what it thinks, but how it thinks. Faith is the surrender of our mind; of reason and our skepticism to put all our trust or faith in someone or something that has no good evidence of itself. That is a sinister thing to me. Of all the supposed virtues, faith is not.
"When you fall, I will be there" - Floor

Velma

Quote from: "Gawen"
Quote from: "hingedro"A second (if slightly off-topic) question; why do atheists refuse to bow before the Lord Jesus, when he has formally admitted his divinity?
Formally? No one has introduced me to him yet. I've even invited him to tea several times.

Jesus is a no-show.

OTOH, what does this have to do with the topic at hand?
Appears to be a poorly executed 'bait-and-switch.'  You know, 'You act this way in one situation, why don't you act that way when confronted with the idea of the divine?'
Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of the astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy.~Carl Sagan

LegendarySandwich

Quote from: "Velma"
Quote from: "Gawen"
Quote from: "hingedro"A second (if slightly off-topic) question; why do atheists refuse to bow before the Lord Jesus, when he has formally admitted his divinity?
Formally? No one has introduced me to him yet. I've even invited him to tea several times.

Jesus is a no-show.

OTOH, what does this have to do with the topic at hand?
Appears to be a poorly executed 'bait-and-switch.'  You know, 'You act this way in one situation, why don't you act that way when confronted with the idea of the divine?'
I'm seriously wondering how he thought that would work. What, did he think we would actually start to worship one of our friends if he claimed to be the Christ or something?

Actually, this bait and switch tactic would work a hell of a lot better against actual believers. If someone you knew claimed to be Jesus, you would deem him crazy; why don't you do the same with Jesus? I mean, there's no evidence that he even existed, much less did any of the purported miracles.

Velma

I have seen it done much better in other places.  Even if it had been well done, he skipped a huge number of intervening logical steps.
Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of the astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy.~Carl Sagan

Tank

Quote from: "Achronos"Seriously though may the Lord have mercy on you both.
If you're serious you're seriously deranged mate. I mean let's face it the Jews were first so they must be right, while the Muslims got the last prophet so they must be right, Hindus are all inclusive so they must be right. At least Judaism, Islam and Hinduism are relatively self-consistent. Christianity is a joke. An omnipotent, omniscient sky daddy was so incompetent he created creatures that he allowed to do what he didn't want them to do, so he punished them for doing what he had given them the ability to do and then turned himself into one of them and had himself tortured to death to fix the problem he had created in the first place. Get real mate, Christianity is a waste of time, space, effort and resources. If you really believe in a Christian God you are definitely not really engaging in reality.

Fortunately I don't live in an aggressive theocracy like Saudi Arabia, the USA or Pakistan. I don't have to put up with being abused by nasty, self-centred, arrogant, proselytising, delusional God Botherers. The fun thing about that is that when accosted by well meaning street missionaries I can take the piss out of them mercilessly and have a real laugh at their ignorance. My kids are all normal people and completely superstition free. With the birth of my Grandson on the 29th Nov another generation of the superstition free has arrived and they may actually be able to deal with the real issues humanity faces rather than worrying about what an imaginary, mythological issues like going to paradise or hell.

Regards
Chris
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Sophus

Quote from: "Tank"
Quote from: "Achronos"Seriously though may the Lord have mercy on you both.
If you're serious you're seriously deranged mate.

Isn't that like saying "I hope the fascist dictator doesn't give you what you deserve but you and I both know he will"?
‎"Christian doesn't necessarily just mean good. It just means better." - John Oliver

Tank

Quote from: "hingedro"A second (if slightly off-topic) question; why do atheists refuse to bow before the Lord Jesus, when he has formally admitted his divinity?
I would no more bow down to Lard Jebus than I would to Donald Duck, Daffy Duck maybe, Warner Brothers characters always had more balls that Disney. Even if JC existed exactly the way the Bible states I wouldn't bow down to the arrogant cunt. If there is one entity that truly deserved to live for all eternity in hell it would be the Christian God, he has nothing, absolutly nothing, to recommend him as worthy of anything other that absolute derision. He's an incompetent, spiteful, manipulative, murderous, genocidal maniac. He makes Hitler look positively benevolent! If a person behaved like the Christian God they would be put in prison or a mental asylum and the key would be thrown away.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Inevitable Droid

Quote from: "Tank"He makes Hitler look positively benevolent!

Yes.  If either (1) the biblical Jehovah or (2) the God of Providence (or both) genuinely existed, and if there were some sort of antagonist named Satan - pure fantasy, of course - I would be signing up with the Infernal Legions, out of a sense of solidarity with all life, and outrage at the horrific evil of deity, author of torment, maker of misery.
Oppose Abraham.

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In the face of mystery, do science, not theology.

The Magic Pudding

Don't anyone tell Tank what I got him for christmas.
I thought it looked a bit flimsy, but the sales guy said I should have faith.
He also said the warranty would be void if any sign of nail holes could be found.
These things are truly versatile, you can blow them up really big and inspire armies to follow you.
Alternately just blow them up a bit and they look friendly, the kiddies love 'em.
Best thing is, you can say Jesus punching bag says whatever you want, and he wont contradict you.


Tank

Love it!

At least it won't cost a lot in air mail!
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

McQ

Quote from: "hingedro"A second (if slightly off-topic) question; why do atheists refuse to bow before the Lord Jesus, when he has formally admitted his divinity?

Oh, come on now. You started this thread and wasted our time just to get to this point? Disappointing, really, but not totally unexpected. I'll consider making this an unofficial warning if you manage to respond and convince us this was not a completely juvenile attempt at bait and switch trolling.
Elvis didn't do no drugs!
--Penn Jillette

Sophus

Quote from: "hingedro"A second (if slightly off-topic) question; why do atheists refuse to bow before the Lord Jesus, when he has formally admitted his divinity?
I would like to formally admit my divinity right now. Please bow down to me.
‎"Christian doesn't necessarily just mean good. It just means better." - John Oliver

Tank

Quote from: "Sophus"
Quote from: "hingedro"A second (if slightly off-topic) question; why do atheists refuse to bow before the Lord Jesus, when he has formally admitted his divinity?
I would like to formally admit my divinity right now. Please bow down to me.
F*** O** I'm God, bow down to me you heretic!  :rant:
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.