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Having My Skepticism Challenged

Started by Dispirited, August 10, 2010, 03:36:36 PM

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deekayfry

Maybe we are accepting the argument that is convoluted. It seems that Dispirited isn't skeptical with the idea of miracles existing.  Rather he or she is skeptical as to the idea that miracles don't exist.  In other words, the skeptic is skeptical about a world that functions on physics, biology, and chemistry rather than on the divine intervention.

Either way, it made for an bass ackwards, interesting and head scratching funny read...  lol
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Davin

This is a video that shares my concept of what skepticism is.

It seems that dispirited is using the term as just not trusting a thing, however that is my assumption.

[youtube:39h2svww]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZBlMwFnPns[/youtube:39h2svww]
Always question all authorities because the authority you don't question is the most dangerous... except me, never question me.

none123

My brother would get really bad ingrown toenails, and finally had them surgically removed. It was done in such a way that they toenails wouldn't ever grow back. But eventually they did grow back. Now I know he didn't pray for it to grow back, because in fact, didn't want them to grow back. Bottom line, it was just a coincidence.

And people that tell me they witness miracles, you have to brush off as either they are delusional, lying for attention, or probably more plausible, they don't know enough about what they saw/experienced and passed it off as a miracle. My mom claims she was visited by dead relatives and was told that my dad would die before a certain day. I am pretty sure it is either she was dreaming, wants attention, or wanted it to be true so much she imagined it. But either way, it is now 9 months after that day and my dad is alive and well.

There are perfectly reputable people that claim to have been abducted by aliens, have seen bigfoot, the vigin mary, ghosts, ufo's, Loch Ness Monster, chupacabra, yeti, think psychics are real or astrology, have seen jesus, god, miracles, etc.  You just can't trust what people say they saw, or especially when they know someone who saw something.

And if god really could heal people that prayed or bring people back to life, shouldn't the lifespan for religious people be very much higher than the lifespan of atheists? Because when the atheist became sick, or injured and didn't pray, they would die, while the religious would pray and be healed and go on living? But doing a lot of studying on the matter, all the statistics pointed to either same lifespan, or maybe 1-2 years in favor of the religious (which I think the number is higher either because of some religions strict lifestyles i.e. not eating certain meats, or not smoking or drinking in some religions, or it is higher because someone very sick can't go to church often, and in the studies aren't counted among the religious).