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Major Earthquake in Haiti

Started by Reginus, January 13, 2010, 09:46:09 PM

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AlP

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Quote from: "AlP"still with a 5% admin overhead though.
That bothers me....why would it take 5% to basically move money to those who are actually going to use it to do some good?  Of course, maybe they are just more upfront with what they keep for themselves (for offsetting costs and whatever admin overhead is) while other orgs hide it.
Yeah it bothers me too. That was the second most important reason I didn't go through them. It doesn't seem to be unusual for charities either, which bothers me more generally. Looking at the numbers, they say the initial donations came to $23,450 so the overhead will be $1,172.50.
"I rebel -- therefore we exist." - Camus

pinkocommie

Ubi dubium ibi libertas: Where there is doubt, there is freedom.
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LoneMateria

Quote from: "pinkocommie"There was another major Earthquake in Haiti.  This time it was a 6.1

http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/americas/Strong-Earthquake-Shakes-Haiti-Again-82148427.html

 :(

I bet we will get blamed for it by sending over atheist charities.  I think its funny though for all the missionaries that have been sent over there and the pedophile gold that Vatican sent and now boom ... another earthquake.  If these people really believe that their god sends earthquakes and other natural disasters to punish the wicked then with the influx of all these religions ... I'm just saying the type of proof they need to condemn others will be ignored because it involves them.

Does anyone know what damage this 2nd earthquake caused?
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pinkocommie

Quote from: "LoneMateria"
Quote from: "pinkocommie"There was another major Earthquake in Haiti.  This time it was a 6.1

http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/americas/Strong-Earthquake-Shakes-Haiti-Again-82148427.html

 :(

I bet we will get blamed for it by sending over atheist charities.  I think its funny though for all the missionaries that have been sent over there and the pedophile gold that Vatican sent and now boom ... another earthquake.  If these people really believe that their god sends earthquakes and other natural disasters to punish the wicked then with the influx of all these religions ... I'm just saying the type of proof they need to condemn others will be ignored because it involves them.

Does anyone know what damage this 2nd earthquake caused?

I suppose it's actually still considered an aftershock, but 6.1 is a pretty big aftershock.  Anyway, I'm watching out for more info but I'm not finding much.  Sadly I don't think there's much left to destroy.  Or maybe I'm just hoping not very many more people are dead.
Ubi dubium ibi libertas: Where there is doubt, there is freedom.
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curiosityandthecat

Quote from: "pinkocommie"I suppose it's actually still considered an aftershock, but 6.1 is a pretty big aftershock.  Anyway, I'm watching out for more info but I'm not finding much.  Sadly I don't think there's much left to destroy.  Or maybe I'm just hoping not very many more people are dead.
Feels weird calling something that size an aftershock, doesn't it?  :blink: Scary, adding insult to injury like that.
-Curio

MommaSquid

This article sheds an interesting light on the subject.  
QuoteHaiti and its neighbors sit above two tectonic plates (the North American and the Caribbean) that slide awkwardly past one another in an east-west direction at about an inch a year.
...
Eventually, say seismologists, the tension in both places will be released by seismic events equal to or greater than that of Tuesday's quake.

At what point to people give up on an area as uninhabitable and unsafe and look for a new home?  I had the same thought when Katrina devastated New Orleans.

LoneMateria

Quote from: "curiosityandthecat"
Quote from: "pinkocommie"I suppose it's actually still considered an aftershock, but 6.1 is a pretty big aftershock.  Anyway, I'm watching out for more info but I'm not finding much.  Sadly I don't think there's much left to destroy.  Or maybe I'm just hoping not very many more people are dead.
Feels weird calling something that size an aftershock, doesn't it?  :blink: Scary, adding insult to injury like that.

I've heard cases of earthquakes where the aftershock is bigger then the first tremor.  I was watching CNN at the health clinic today (heather hurt her back) and they talked about the newest one and said the people at the hospitals all dropped to their knees and prayed to Jesus to save them and after they finished it stopped.  You know the implications there but the bitch missed the real story and the real reason why there were so many fatalities in the original earthquake.  Instead of looking for somewhere safe to get to they did the worst thing possible and stayed right where they were ... because Jesus would save them.  If it wasn't so tragic it would be laughable :-(
Quote from: "Richard Lederer"There once was a time when all people believed in God and the church ruled. This time was called the Dark Ages
Quote from: "Demosthenes"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true.
Quote from: "Oscar Wilde"Truth, in matters of religion, is simpl

Reginus

Quote from: "MommaSquid"At what point to people give up on an area as uninhabitable and unsafe and look for a new home?  I had the same thought when Katrina devastated New Orleans.

Earthquakes are far, far less predictable than hurricanes though.
"The greatest argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill

LoneMateria

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/27/AR2010012701626.html

After reading the above link (or as much of it as I could stomach) I think we need to build some fucking schools in Haiti.  You know teach these superstitious nuts that there are no werewolves and they can stop murdering each other because of it ...
Quote from: "Richard Lederer"There once was a time when all people believed in God and the church ruled. This time was called the Dark Ages
Quote from: "Demosthenes"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true.
Quote from: "Oscar Wilde"Truth, in matters of religion, is simpl

AlP

Quote from: "LoneMateria"After reading the above link (or as much of it as I could stomach) I think we need to build some fucking schools in Haiti. You know teach these superstitious nuts that there are no werewolves and they can stop murdering each other because of it ...
They aren't all superstitious. I've been following Doctors Without Borders, partly because I'm concerned about Haiti and partly because I gave them rather a lot of money. Below is the report of an interview with a Haitian surgeon working for Doctors Without Borders (the point being that he does not seem to be a superstitious nut).

QuotePORT-AU-PRINCE â€" Haitian surgeon Dr. Philippe Brouard has worked with Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) at Trinité hospital in Port-au-Prince since 2006. On January 13, the morning after the earthquake, he came to work at the trauma surgery centre only to find that most of Trinité had collapsed. Two of his colleagues and several patients had been killed. MSF had immediately evacuated surviving patients from the hospital and was treating them outside, while wounded people from the surrounding areas flooded toward what was left of the hospital. Dr. Brouard performed triage on that first day, identifying patients who needed urgent medical attention. By the second day, he was doing amputations in an improvised operating theater because the ones inside the decimated structure could no longer be used.
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SSY

I never understood why one of the titles was "Hates Pat Robertson", now I do.
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kelltrill

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/commen ... 007065.ece

This article from the Times is an interesting perspective regarding Pat Robertson's stupidity. He is essentially the only Christian not being hypocritical in this instance (according to the article) because he's sticking belligerently and firmly to Christian principles. Three cheers for taking the Bible literally eh? I am disgusted.
"Faith is generally nothing more than the permission religious people give to one another to believe things strongly without evidence."

SSY

It just shows, that if you do stick rigidly to Christian principles, you will more likely than not, end up as a terrible person. However, if you ignore most of them, and fill in the gaps with stuff you made up, you can turn out just fine.
Quote from: "Godschild"SSY: You are fairly smart and to think I thought you were a few fries short of a happy meal.
Quote from: "Godschild"explain to them how and why you decided to be athiest and take the consequences that come along with it
Quote from: "Aedus"Unlike atheists, I'm not an angry prick

Prometheus

I can't beleive a catholic is accusing US of having such an agenda. The primary concern of catholic missionaries has always been the spread of their religion(And hence the church will inevitably profit from tithes and fees for religious services.). I'm sure they do some good as well but I really doubt they would significantly help a population who outright rejected conversion to their faith. Catholocism is a business.

A while ago I heard similar complaints within my community when "Christian Children fund" changed its name to "Child fund." I work with the elderly, many of whom are well off and I know of at least 3 of them who immediatly stopped contributing to the fund when the name was changed. Why should they care about what the organization is called so long as it helps the needy? It's not like its called "Atheist fund" or anything.
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kelltrill

This is another psychotically Christian article I found regarding Haiti, though this one takes a more extreme stance.
http://www.godhatestheworld.com/haiti/godswrath.html
"Faith is generally nothing more than the permission religious people give to one another to believe things strongly without evidence."