Atheism is a lie

[skurry]

[Tanker]

Communism is a form of government. Atheism is a disbelief in god. One does not require the other. This has actually been dicused a few times here but i doubt you've spent much time searching this forum. It is true that most Communist governments have encouraged and even tried to enforce Atheism. But that was in the name of power. Religion is a source of competing power for a totalitarian-communist government which makes it a treat. If you want to make baseless grouping of religious views and forms of government. How about the prevailence of Fashist governments being theist. 2 good examples would be Nazi Germany, and the Iatollah of Iran.

Yes, I understand Communism is a form of Govnerment. But these govnerments are atheist. And they are trying to abolish Christianity, and Christianity only. Communist-atheist Nations are sending Christians to prison camps (life sentences), beheading them, some of them are held captive as slaves. And this is all condoned, and encouraged by atheists.

Did you know communist-atheist North Korea is planning to strike Hawaii with a nuclear missile?

Why are atheists encouraging World War III? Possibly Armageddon?

Either you are hte most uneducated and ignorant person ever or you are pushing the trollyness of your posts on purpose.


A) they are not Atheist but they try to enforce Atheism. There is a difference.
B) they are against all religion. I know as a Christian you think the world revolves around your particular mythology, but they dislike all religions.
C) they are not Communist-atheist nations they are communist nations. Again Atheism is NOT a form of government.
D) I would LOVE some souces since thats another of the rules youve decided not to read or disregard.
E) Where did you hear that N. korea is going to attack anyone with anything again source would be nice.
F) Atheists aren't, governments are, I serious doubt it will come to WWIII
G) armengeddon is supposed to be gods wrath MAN couldn't anyway

[McQ]

Ok folks. This thread needs to get back on track right away. We welcome reasonable people of all kinds here. Sarcasm and personal attacks have no place on the forum. Rein it in, please. Newer members need to be familiar with the rules of the forum and make sure they stick to them as well as those of us who have been around awhile.

This post is meant for everyone, of any belief, who has stepped outside of the bounds of reasoned debate here.

Thank you.

[ebarrowes]

There are two kinds of wrongdoing: 1) overt, negative acts and 2) not doing the positive that you know to do.  There is a verse in the Bible, Rev. 3: 15-16,  "I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.  So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."
A "moral" atheist refrains from the first.  Are there atheists who strive to avoid the second?

 

Not sure if it's still in my signature, but if sin may be committed by not acting when you're morally obligated to act a certain way, there is no greater sinner than God.

You probably won't get banned unless you get preachy, but we're not disturbed by you (not in the way you think, anyway), and we don't ban just for dissent.  Whitney will ban you if you abandon threads or conspicuously do not address points, or if you start preaching, though (and your post is little better than preaching).  Yes, atheists do positive acts when they feel they should.  Are you honestly suggesting atheists never stick out their neck for anyone?  What other wrong through inaction is there?  If you say not belonging to your religion is a wrong committed through inaction, you'll have to establish to me that your religion is right.  I'd hate to get tossed into hell for believing a false book, after all, and the Catholics are pretty certain you guys are going to hell, as well as it being an inactive wrong to not believe in their religion.  It'd be a much easier choice if anyone had some evidence.  Meh.

Part of the problem with atheists is that they deny the existence of "vision" or love or anything that cannot be measured with scientific instruments.  God so designed life that one must have faith to progress.  To believe in something and strive for it stretches the fiber of a person like nothing else.  This is the purpose of life, to grow.  And, if everything is perfectly spelled out in black and white then there is no need to stretch and grow.  He has purposefully kept himself hidden from the faithless.  However, the time will soon come when he descends from the sky and reigns personally on earth.  At that time, there will be no room for doubt, only flat out rebellion.

[Whitney]

Part of the problem with atheists is that they deny the existence of "vision" or love or anything that cannot be measured with scientific instruments.

On love...

I as an atheist would think it exists even if there were no scientific evidence/explaination of it.

I don't think you understand what an atheist is.

[ebarrowes]

It seems like you are deliberatly being antagonistic in an atempt to get yourself banned. Like you want to be able to say "See I knew those mean atheists would bann me". Well I've got to tell you the only people who are banned are spammers, troll, and anyone else who won't read and follow the rules. Atheists get banned for breaking the rules same as Theists. It seems kind of petty, delibratly trying to get banned from as many atheist forums as possible, as you've admitted to doing. There have been several theists who can come and had a civilsed disscusion without breaking the rules. Why do you like seeing how far you can push the line before you get banned? It seems like such a petty and empty way to act the martyr.

I think people who do that must not be very confident in their faith and need a reason to not take that step outside of the box...so they purposely annoy atheists so they can confirm their falsely held stereotypes.  It's certainly not being a martyr for their cause, if anything it huts it....can't attract flies with vinegar.

I do not want to be banned.  I prefer to have open conversation.  It was an inadvertent discovery that a moderator would ban someone to eliminate opposing views.  Perhaps this forum has a little bit more intelligently moderated.

[Tanker]

It seems like you are deliberatly being antagonistic in an atempt to get yourself banned. Like you want to be able to say "See I knew those mean atheists would bann me". Well I've got to tell you the only people who are banned are spammers, troll, and anyone else who won't read and follow the rules. Atheists get banned for breaking the rules same as Theists. It seems kind of petty, delibratly trying to get banned from as many atheist forums as possible, as you've admitted to doing. There have been several theists who can come and had a civilsed disscusion without breaking the rules. Why do you like seeing how far you can push the line before you get banned? It seems like such a petty and empty way to act the martyr.

I think people who do that must not be very confident in their faith and need a reason to not take that step outside of the box...so they purposely annoy atheists so they can confirm their falsely held stereotypes.  It's certainly not being a martyr for their cause, if anything it huts it....can't attract flies with vinegar.

I do not want to be banned.  I prefer to have open conversation.  It was an inadvertent discovery that a moderator would ban someone to eliminate opposing views.  Perhaps this forum has a little bit more intelligently moderated.

Well, for future refence the best way to have an "open converstion" is to NOT make you very first post an attack on those you wish to coverse with.

[ebarrowes]

Part of the problem with atheists is that they deny the existence of "vision" or love or anything that cannot be measured with scientific instruments.

On love...

I as an atheist would think it exists even if there were no scientific evidence/explaination of it.

I don't think you understand what an atheist is.

There are "degrees" of atheism, right?  The evidence of God's existence is along the lines of the evidence of love.  God can speak to you in a way that is undeniable, but the person sitting next to you will call you a fool for "imagining" something that he cannot "prove."

[ebarrowes]

Well, for future refence the best way to have an "open converstion" is to NOT make you very first post an attack on those you wish to coverse with.

I attack the lie that is atheism.  That you are ignorant of it is your redemption.  That you are ignorant of it is your affliction.  For the life of me, I cannot find any virtues attributed to it.

[Tanker]

Well, for future refence the best way to have an "open converstion" is to NOT make you very first post an attack on those you wish to coverse with.

I attack the lie that is atheism.  That you are ignorant of it is your redemption.  That you are ignorant of it is your affliction.  For the life of me, I cannot find any virtues attributed to it.

Again attacks are not the best way to have the "open" conversation you state you are looking for. People tend to shut down when attacked. Attaking people is a great way to have a closed minded argument but a very poor source for open anything.

[rlrose328]

I will probably get the boot for promoting this idea.

Atheists don't know if God exists or not. They are playing mind games with every one.

Christians don't know if god exists or not... they are playing mind games with every one.

See, we can play that game, too.

FAIL.

[rlrose328]

Atheists don't know if God exists or not. They are playing mind games with every one.

Definition. Fail.

Since an atheist cannot prove a universal negative. That means God can mathematically be proven.

Christians cannot prove that god exists.  This means that the default position is nonexistence until some evidence for his existence, excluding his book, is provided.  Again, nice try.

ETA:  Wrong word in second paragraph.

[Whitney]

There are "degrees" of atheism, right?

No...you either believe in god or you don't.  As for love...if Squid has the time he has a nice article he wrote about the science of love that he might decide to share.

[Whitney]

IBelieveInHymn, you are using the same IP address as Psalm23.  If you don't want to get banned you need to explain yourself before posting again, sock puppets are against our rules.

[Karras]

I do not want to be banned.  I prefer to have open conversation.

Your continued adoption of an aggressive, preachy posting style proves this is either a lie or you do not know the first thing about having an "open conversation".