Atheism is a lie

[Whitney]

It seems like you are deliberatly being antagonistic in an atempt to get yourself banned. Like you want to be able to say "See I knew those mean atheists would bann me". Well I've got to tell you the only people who are banned are spammers, troll, and anyone else who won't read and follow the rules. Atheists get banned for breaking the rules same as Theists. It seems kind of petty, delibratly trying to get banned from as many atheist forums as possible, as you've admitted to doing. There have been several theists who can come and had a civilsed disscusion without breaking the rules. Why do you like seeing how far you can push the line before you get banned? It seems like such a petty and empty way to act the martyr.

I think people who do that must not be very confident in their faith and need a reason to not take that step outside of the box...so they purposely annoy atheists so they can confirm their falsely held stereotypes.  It's certainly not being a martyr for their cause, if anything it huts it....can't attract flies with vinegar.

[PipeBox]

There are two kinds of wrongdoing: 1) overt, negative acts and 2) not doing the positive that you know to do.  There is a verse in the Bible, Rev. 3: 15-16,  "I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.  So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."
A "moral" atheist refrains from the first.  Are there atheists who strive to avoid the second?

 

Not sure if it's still in my signature, but if sin may be committed by not acting when you're morally obligated to act a certain way, there is no greater sinner than God.

You probably won't get banned unless you get preachy, but we're not disturbed by you (not in the way you think, anyway), and we don't ban just for dissent.  Whitney will ban you if you abandon threads or conspicuously do not address points, or if you start preaching, though (and your post is little better than preaching).  Yes, atheists do positive acts when they feel they should.  Are you honestly suggesting atheists never stick out their neck for anyone?  What other wrong through inaction is there?  If you say not belonging to your religion is a wrong committed through inaction, you'll have to establish to me that your religion is right.  I'd hate to get tossed into hell for believing a false book, after all, and the Catholics are pretty certain you guys are going to hell, as well as it being an inactive wrong to not believe in their religion.  It'd be a much easier choice if anyone had some evidence.  Meh.

[rlrose328]

Atheists enjoy a life free from the struggle to "do good" because when you leave off trying to please God, the devil leaves off of you; now you are now more or less on course for his program.

We're not upset... we're puzzled why you choose to make a statement without anything to back it up.

And I do not enjoy a life free from the struggle to "do good."  It's a shame that it's a struggle for YOU to be good... I do it automatically, without really thinking about it.  I didn't need a book to tell me not to kill, not to steal, not to cheat, or to cherish those close to me.  Why do YOU need that book to keep you on the "straight and narrow"?

[rlrose328]

Any conversation here, which does not presuppose atheistic as correct, I think will get banned.

See, here is a flaw in your overall thinking... no one is presupposing that atheism is "correct."  You have your way of thinking... that there is a god and that the bible is true and factual.  More power to you, friend.  I have my way of thinking... that there is evidence for a god or that the bible is fact, and I don't "believe" in things that aren't factual... that is, I don't let imaginary beings guide my life.  You believe only the bible can provide goodness.  I believe I know right from wrong, good from bad, without that book.  Am I in jail?  Nope, never have been.  Only ever had 1 speeding ticket.

Neither one of us is correct or wrong.  We just are.

Any conversation that is seen as preaching to us to change our belief system... THAT will get you banned.  Just converse with us... ask us (not snide) questions and we'll answer.   But this constant flogging of your beliefs, just waiting for the "evil" atheists to ban you... it's counterproductive and annoying.

[Heretical Rants]

Just for emphasis,

 I would be lying if I were to pretend that I could ever believe in your religion.


This means that, for me, Mormonism is a lie.

[IBelieveInHymn]

I will probably get the boot for promoting this idea.

Atheists don't know if God exists or not. They are playing mind games with every one.

[curiosityandthecat]

Atheists don't know if God exists or not. They are playing mind games with every one.

Definition. Fail.

[IBelieveInHymn]

I see, Christians are without sin.  

Christians are sinners. That's why we bless the Lord Jesus Christ every day of our lives. With him, we are washed free from sin.
 Peace

[IBelieveInHymn]

Atheists don't know if God exists or not. They are playing mind games with every one.

Definition. Fail.

Since an atheist cannot prove a universal negative. That means God can mathematically be proven.

[skurry]

:ban:

[curiosityandthecat]

Christians are sinners.

Truer words, man... truer words.  

[IBelieveInHymn]

Christians are sinners.

Truer words, man... truer words.  

Jesus Christ saith "He who is without sin shall cast the first stone, and every man dropped their rock and walked away".

God knows we are sinners.

[curiosityandthecat]

Christians are sinners.

Truer words, man... truer words.  

Jesus Christ saith "He who is without sin shall cast the first stone, and every man dropped their rock and walked away".

God knows we are sinners.

If God knows we are sinners, then God knew we would be sinners at our creation, thus God made us that way knowing what we would become. That makes God a grade-A douchebag, in my book.

[IBelieveInHymn]

If God knows we are sinners, then God knew we would be sinners at our creation, thus God made us that way knowing what we would become. That makes God a grade-A douchebag, in my book.

Yes, God knew in advance that we would sin. But you don't understand Christianity. God wants us to believe his Son (Jesus Christ) will wash away your sins with his blood. No matter what you do or say, Jesus Christ will forgive you.

[curiosityandthecat]

If God knows we are sinners, then God knew we would be sinners at our creation, thus God made us that way knowing what we would become. That makes God a grade-A douchebag, in my book.

Yes, God knew in advance that we would sin. But you don't understand Christianity. God wants us to believe his Son (Jesus Christ) will wash away your sins with his blood. No matter what you do or say, Jesus Christ will forgive you.

A: God wants us to believe his Son will wash away your sins with his blood.
B: No matter what you do or say, Jesus Christ will forgive you.
Therefore, it doesn't matter if you believe his Son will wash away your sins, because no matter what you do or say, Jesus Christ will forgive you.

Hear that, everybody? Orgies and baby-sandwiches for everybody! It doesn't matter what we do or say, we're forgiven! That's awesome. Now I can start up my pre-teen brothel, just like I've always wanted!