Opinion on Homosexuality

[Prometheus]

I never really understood what the big deal is. Love is love. Who cares whos putting what into where. I have a theory however. The taboo may have arisen because of a cultural need to expand the influence of christianity/other religions. Its easier to do this with a higher population(More people to fight for your side as well as to peacefully displace rival groups.). And obviously gay couples don't have very many children(That was a joke). A lot of our cultural taboos don't make much sense in modern context. What can ya do? The "rules" are taught to us from birth and we're made to believe that without them we lose our cultural identity(And become a morally corrupt outcast in the process perhaps. This threat is what subconsciously enforces the taboos and makes the weak willed into willing slaves to the culture. (Hive mind lol)). We should all consider ourselves lucky that we are strong willed enough to abandon old customs and prejudices when they cease to make sense for us. The rest of the world seems to be too weak to think for themselves sometimes, we should pity them and definately ignore their inane ranting when we find it offensive. Maybe we secularists will oneday lead the mindless rabble into some sort of true utopia? Or maybe history will continue as always, with but a small percentage of the population actually being aware of whats really going on and the rest just following blindly most anthing they are told. Has anyone seen the movie "Idiocrasy"? I fear we've been living in one for millenia. I find myself feeling more and more like an intellectual giant among a sea of drooling idiots everyday. What about the rest of you?

[curiosityandthecat]

Love is love. Who cares whos putting what into where.

My sentiments, exactly.

I also believe that people who have over-the-top reactions and disgust toward homosexuality often harboring confusing feelings about their own sexualities.

[Psalm23]

I am an atheist. I tried my luck with Christianity, but couldn't find it was right for me. And I believe everyone should believe what ever they want to. People shouldn't tell others how to think. Everyone has their own feelings and opinions and they should be able to express them. Not only that, in America (sorry if this does not apply to all) we have the freedom of religion. But anyway, I got talking about this because of a text message I got. Someone tried to insult me by calling me gay, and I asked if they had a problem with it. This hardcore christian then replied with the following:
"I have a problem with you. So stop texting me. And yes gay sex is nasty and God spits on anyone who is gay. read the bible if you don't believe me. Now i..."
I decided to post this because I'm immature, and homosexuality ties to Christianity through the bible. Now I completely disagree with what she said, I believe that's ignorance at its worst. Any opinions?

I'm a Christian, and I believe homosexuality is a curse from Satan.

Just imagine if the very first two living species (male and female) were not attracted to each other? I think we would have a huge problem!!

Homosexuality + no reproductive system = no origin of life.

you people who support homosexuality better think about that one!

[curiosityandthecat]

I'm a Christian, and I believe homosexuality is a curse from Satan.

Just imagine if the very first two living species (male and female) were not attracted to each other? I think we would have a huge problem!!

Homosexuality + no reproductive system = no origin of life.

you people who support homosexuality better think about that one!

[rlrose328]

Just imagine if the very first two living species (male and female) were not attracted to each other? I think we would have a huge problem!!

Homosexuality + no reproductive system = no origin of life.

you people who support homosexuality better think about that one!

While I love curio's response (nice one!  Love Fry!), I have to point out that your premise only works if we accept the ludicrous premise that life started with two humans created by a sky god.  Because that is not scientifically possible, your argument is nul and void.

Besides, perhaps god created or allows homosexuality for purposes of population control.  You people who don't support homosexuality better think about that one.

Next.

[Hitsumei]

I'm a Christian, and I believe homosexuality is a curse from Satan.

Are you a homosexual? If not, then in what way do you feel that you are cursed by homosexuality? I certainly don't feel that I am cursed. I actually think that my life is pretty good.

Just imagine if the very first two living species (male and female) were not attracted to each other? I think we would have a huge problem!!

There were no "first two living species", and I think you mean organisms, as species don't tend to interbreed in the wild. The first life was all asexual, and reproduced without sharing genetic information with other members of the species, so for quite a long time, all life was female, and then males were a way to double the genetic diversity available for selection in offspring.

Homosexuality + no reproductive system = no origin of life.

Homosexuals are not infertile, generally, we can still reproduce offspring if we wanted. People have sex with people they're not really attracted to all the time. I don't know why people seem to think that homosexuals can't have children.

you people who support homosexuality better think about that one!

Yes, I've heard of all these strange, ill-conceived objections before. I think that a little more thought on the subject would retard one from putting forward "that one".

[Ninteen45]

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Explain.

[Kylyssa]

Heaven knows we're horribly underpopulated and we're drowning in so much excess food that we need to breed more children to eat it all.  

Only when no child goes to bed hungry dare we complain if people don't or can't reproduce together.

I can't reproduce because someone shoved a knife through my uterus, does that mean I should be banned from having sex because I can't reproduce?

Even freakish, selfish, child abusive quiverfull religious nuts can only have 17 or 18 children in a lifetime - even they have lots and lots of sex without reproduction.  Should they be punished or hated for all that non-reproductive sex they've had?

I can't understand why "the religion of love" fears love yet loves hate so much.

[Psalm23]

Besides, perhaps god created or allows homosexuality for purposes of population control.  You people who don't support homosexuality better think about that one. Next.

Hi, and let me correct you on something. God does not allow homosexuality! Do you know how I know? Here, let me help you out..

"Man SHALL NOT lay with a man, and a woman SHALL NOT lay with a woman!"

I'm sorry, but God vomits at homosexuality..

[Ninteen45]

Did it say anything about gay marrage?

[Kylyssa]

I'm sorry, but God vomits at homosexuality..

Of course the god of hate would vomit on sexualities that don't support a patriarchy!  What else are we to expect of a god created to justify hatred?  That Jesus character was just thrown in there by some damned hippies trying to confuse you.  All that stupid stuff about loving people - what a moron!  

Love is horribly counter to a society that arranges marriages by their financial and political expediency while supporting the notion that women are unequal to men, a kind of cattle to be traded between men.  What if people were to marry out of love instead of a desire to produce heirs and soldiers for god?  That would be awful in such a society!

If women thought that reproduction and service to men were not their only purpose in life they might stop marrying old men that beat them and force them to the childbed.  They might get silly ideas like that women shouldn't be sold or exchanged by the fathers that own them from conception to the husbands that own them upon marriage and then are free to do anything to them - as long as the stick they beat them with is not too big.

The whole society might fall apart if men refused to follow the rules and chose their partners from love.  How could the patriarchy keep its hold if men stopped caring about producing the right heirs and cared about finding someone to love and cherish their whole life long?  Inevitably some of those partners of love would be men as some men are naturally inclined to love men.

Since those clinging to the patriarchal society can't prove that male-female marriages aren't proper heir producing vehicles they turn their grasping hands to homosexual marriages which fly in the face of keeping a patriarchal society based on heirs to serve the father and the god.

The problem with trying to control people's feelings is that society, unlike some types of religion, has evolved.  In civilized places, women are no longer bred to death as a rule.  Women are equals and valued in their own right as humans rather than as mere vessels for seed.  It's allowable for people to marry for love.  The population is in no danger of dying out.  In civilized countries people are now free to choose a religion rather than forced to follow one upon pain of death.

Surely, you "sin" every day of your life, often in ways you have no plan to change.  So why choose this particular sin to feel better about yourself?  Are you trying to diminish or cover for your own sins by choosing to point out the sin of love?

That hippie Jesus and all his talk of love - I get the impression that if he were real, he would vomit on hatred and desires to coerce others to your will.  That character seemed to think people should come to him willingly not because the hounds of god were nipping at their heels in hatred.

[curiosityandthecat]

Kylyssa, expand on that and turn it into a blog or AP post. Don't want that energy to go to waste on someone like Psalm.

[VanReal]

Hi, and let me correct you on something. God does not allow homosexuality! Do you know how I know? Here, let me help you out..

"Man SHALL NOT lay with a man, and a woman SHALL NOT lay with a woman!"

I'm sorry, but God vomits at homosexuality..

Verse please.  Please provide the verse that says that god vomits at homosexuality.  I just love how christians act as if they know what was meant in every thing someone wrote down that was added to the bible.  And how you cherry pick which things are to be taken literally and which are not. Who are you to know what makes god vomit?  I bet you guys kick ass during shakespear in class.  Why aren't you all picketing the social service offices to get our right to beat our kids to quiet submission back, or joining government to put women back in their place and to bring back slavery?  

By the way if you were referring to Leviticus 18:6 in the wuote above it does not say "woman shall not lay with a woman"...please review your bible.  Also, this was not directed towards the layman nor to christians.

Oh, and please provide the passage that has anything about homosexuality being addressed by jesus....

[spoiler:1n32n9bn]I bet you won't find one....[/spoiler:1n32n9bn]

[Ninteen45]

God <3 lesbians!

Also, Psalm's post reminds me of the south park episode where Mrs' Garrison grows a penis on a mouse.

[rlrose328]

Besides, perhaps god created or allows homosexuality for purposes of population control.  You people who don't support homosexuality better think about that one. Next.

Hi, and let me correct you on something. God does not allow homosexuality! Do you know how I know? Here, let me help you out..

"Man SHALL NOT lay with a man, and a woman SHALL NOT lay with a woman!"

I'm sorry, but God vomits at homosexuality..

But that's the thing, isn't it.  God continued to exist after the bible was written... can you honestly tell me that you know for sure that God has never  changed his mind and just never let anyone know so they could write it down?  Religion is finite, unchanging.  The world is ALWAYS changing.  Science is always changing.

So... perhaps got ALLOWS or CREATED homosexuality to purposes of population control.  Your bible quote means nothing to the world as a whole.  

And really... you want to worship a being who vomits on people and things?