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Started by disposablechild, April 03, 2009, 09:54:54 PM

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disposablechild

I am an atheist. I tried my luck with Christianity, but couldn't find it was right for me. And I believe everyone should believe what ever they want to. People shouldn't tell others how to think. Everyone has their own feelings and opinions and they should be able to express them. Not only that, in America (sorry if this does not apply to all) we have the freedom of religion. But anyway, I got talking about this because of a text message I got. Someone tried to insult me by calling me gay, and I asked if they had a problem with it. This hardcore christian then replied with the following:
"I have a problem with you. So stop texting me. And yes gay sex is nasty and God spits on anyone who is gay. read the bible if you don't believe me. Now i..."
I decided to post this because I'm immature, and homosexuality ties to Christianity through the bible. Now I completely disagree with what she said, I believe that's ignorance at its worst. Any opinions?

Cemetery

It sounds like the person texting you couldn't think of anything mean ENOUGH to say, so she started spouting off about homosexuality.  Who even knows where that came from, but she sounds like an ignorant, pitiful person who probably isn't very smart.  Seriously, that's the best she could do for an insult??   :eek:

~C

G.ENIGMA

Quote from: "disposablechild"I am an atheist. I tried my luck with Christianity, but couldn't find it was right for me. And I believe everyone should believe what ever they want to. People shouldn't tell others how to think. Everyone has their own feelings and opinions and they should be able to express them. Not only that, in America (sorry if this does not apply to all) we have the freedom of religion. But anyway, I got talking about this because of a text message I got. Someone tried to insult me by calling me gay, and I asked if they had a problem with it. This hardcore christian then replied with the following:
"I have a problem with you. So stop texting me. And yes gay sex is nasty and God spits on anyone who is gay. read the bible if you don't believe me. Now i..."
I decided to post this because I'm immature, and homosexuality ties to Christianity through the bible. Now I completely disagree with what she said, I believe that's ignorance at its worst. Any opinions?

Text her one last time, apologise for texting her back in the first place, let her know you are deleting her number as soon as you press send and thank her profusely for her "kind" christian thoughts :D
To those who are overly cautious, everything seems impossible.

curiosityandthecat

She's an idiot. Ignore that kind of stupidity, lest it gets on you and you have to pay for the dry cleaning.
-Curio

Ihateyoumike

She sounds just about as intelligent as this guy:
Prayers that need no answer now, cause I'm tired of who I am
You were my greatest mistake, I fell in love with your sin
Your littlest sin.

Hitsumei

This used to annoy me when I was younger, but then I realized that it wasn't really the opinion that gay sex is "nasty" that annoyed me -- I think that straight sex is nasty -- it was the act of stating this. I wouldn't walk up to people and tell them how nasty the thought of them having sex is to me. That's is quite rude, and I see no point at all in stating it other than to insult. It's just a mean thing to say.

You don't walk up to people that you don't find physically attractive, and tell them how nasty the thought of them naked is to you (unless you lack a social conscience). That's just cruel.

I'd tell her not to knock it until she has tried it. At least my opinion comes from experience.   :blush:
"Women who seek to be equal with men lack ambition." ~Timothy Leary
"Marriage is for women the commonest mode of livelihood, and the total amount of undesired sex endured by women is probably greater in marriage than in prostitution." ~Bertrand Russell
"[Feminism is] a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their

Sorz

When I was a theist, I thought of gays as unnatural, but I never felt that they should be mistreated, I felt that what they did with each other in the bedroom was THEIR buisness and not mine or anyone elses for that matter.

Now as an agnostic atheist...I don't think of being gay as unnatural, but something that isn't too common amongst species - but it exists in nature. My stance on gays hasn't changed much really, I was always a softie to every one even as a theist :P
“Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion.”

PipeBox

Quote from: "Sorz"When I was a theist, I thought of gays as unnatural, but I never felt that they should be mistreated, I felt that what they did with each other in the bedroom was THEIR buisness and not mine or anyone elses for that matter.

Now as an agnostic atheist...I don't think of being gay as unnatural, but something that isn't too common amongst species - but it exists in nature. My stance on gays hasn't changed much really, I was always a softie to every one even as a theist :P

Same.  I was told a couple times that I was being soft as a way to please everyone, but in that, I was sidestepping God's will.  I took their word for it, point blank, but now I realize how stupid that was.

For instance disposablechild, I have no problem with saying whoever you were talking to is a bigoted ass.  And I'd add a good bit if I thought it was willful, but odds are strong they had their opinion on the matter chosen for them, with no reasoning of their own applied at any point in the process.
If sin may be committed through inaction, God never stopped.

My soul, do not seek eternal life, but exhaust the realm of the possible.
-- Pindar

Hitsumei

You know, homosexual relationships involve more than just having sex privately in backrooms. A lot of us want social, and public recognition, and endorsement of our relationships as legitimate, and to have families, and lives that don't involve hiding, just like you normies.
"Women who seek to be equal with men lack ambition." ~Timothy Leary
"Marriage is for women the commonest mode of livelihood, and the total amount of undesired sex endured by women is probably greater in marriage than in prostitution." ~Bertrand Russell
"[Feminism is] a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their

Ihateyoumike

Quote from: "Hitsumei"You know, homosexual relationships involve more than just having sex privately in backrooms. A lot of us want social, and public recognition, and endorsement of our relationships as legitimate, and to have families, and lives that don't involve hiding, just like you normies.

Freedom to be yourself. What a novel concept. I like it. ;)
Prayers that need no answer now, cause I'm tired of who I am
You were my greatest mistake, I fell in love with your sin
Your littlest sin.

Kit_Kaboodle

I don't think gay people should try and reason with fundamentalist Christians. Their argument is pretty clear cut:
QuoteLeviticus 18:22  Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13  If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

It is not helpful to argue with someone who's is calling for a group of people's death. Luckily for gay people, most people haven't read the Bible, or if they have, just cherry pick the parts they like. There are some nutjobs, like the notorious Westboro Baptist Church who make the persecution of homosexuals their central tenant.

I would recommend to the original poster of this topic, to use the Bible against the Bible Thumper. In the book of Samuel, there is a description of a very Brokeback Mountain style relationship between David and Jonathan, who "kissed one another, and wept with one another." It even includes an angry rant from David's father, ashamed of their homosexual love:

Quote(20:30) "Thou hast chosen the son of Jesse to thine own confusion, and unto the confusion of thy mother's nakedness."

This whole story of David's relationship with Jonathan, perhaps the love of his life, is sure to make anti-gay Christians very uncomfortable.

Ninteen45

I hate gays. The drown puppies and made the jews.

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Sophus

The ironic thing is those who are cruel to homosexuals are usually fighting something within themselves. I would direct her toward the study that concluded this. If nothing els, it should at least shut her up.
‎"Christian doesn't necessarily just mean good. It just means better." - John Oliver

curiosityandthecat

The song is great, by the way. Though, the preview frame confuses me, you know, down there.
-Curio

Tanker

Is anyone else mildly concerned that this hit and run poster one and only post on this forum is a "hot topic" (I did air quotes in the rw too lol). I also noticed that the first thing he did was qualify his first post's first sentence by stating that hes an atheist. I might just be jaded from so many loaded questions, innocent quizes, and "hit and runs" over the years but something about the OP rings false with me. Apologies ahead of time if your real.
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I've been in fox holes, I'm still an atheist -Me-

God is a cake, and we all know what the cake is.

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