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Started by Crow, July 04, 2012, 01:59:13 AM

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Asmodean

Quote from: Dobermonster on July 07, 2012, 01:53:10 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on July 07, 2012, 12:10:29 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 06, 2012, 11:59:53 PM
Is it just money you want or other material things?  ;D
Slaves. Lotsa' them.  :D

I have one, but she has a habit of strangling her amorphous blob overlords.


No neck - no worries  :D
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Sweetdeath

Quote from: Budhorse4 on July 07, 2012, 02:04:17 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 07, 2012, 01:33:00 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on July 07, 2012, 01:11:02 AM
Dye that mane gray and... Yes, yes, why not...

Maybe someone with awesome photoshop skills *COUGHPUDDINGORBUDHORSE* could do my mane gray.

Sorry, no computer. Gonna have to IOU that one.  ;)

aww ok :)
Law 35- "You got to go with what works." - Robin Lefler

Wiggum:"You have that much faith in me, Homer?"
Homer:"No! Faith is what you have in things that don't exist. Your awesomeness is real."

"I was thinking that perhaps this thing called God does not exist. Because He cannot save any one of us. No matter how we pray, He doesn't mend our wounds.

En_Route

Quote from: Dobermonster on July 07, 2012, 01:53:10 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on July 07, 2012, 12:10:29 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 06, 2012, 11:59:53 PM
Is it just money you want or other material things?  ;D
Slaves. Lotsa' them.  :D

I have one, but she has a habit of strangling her amorphous blob overlords.



Do you rent her out? That's exactly how I want to go.
Some ideas are so stupid only an intellectual could believe them (Orwell).

OldGit

Thanks for the thought, Asmo, but 100 slaves is more than I can afford.  I could give you a dead badger.

Asmodean

Quote from: OldGit on July 07, 2012, 01:48:49 PM
Thanks for the thought, Asmo, but 100 slaves is more than I can afford.  I could give you a dead badger.
With maggots?  :D
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

DeterminedJuliet

Hahaha, Oops! I posted in the wrong thread!
Nothing to see. ;D
"We've thought of life by analogy with a journey, with pilgrimage which had a serious purpose at the end, and the THING was to get to that end; success, or whatever it is, or maybe heaven after you're dead. But, we missed the point the whole way along; It was a musical thing and you were supposed to sing, or dance, while the music was being played.

The Magic Pudding

I remember talking to my daughter when she was little about hippos and their eating habits.  She thought they ate fish, I told her they didn't she looked at me in a cute quizzical manner, weighing this and that.  I'd led her wrong in the past, I never did detach her nose so it was reasonable she doubted me.  I think you should teach a kid not to be gullible, test their credulity.

Ali

I would have guessed fish too.  Off to Google.

OldGit

Quote from: AsmoWith maggots?  :D

It's hard to check without stopping the car, but I expect they have plenty of maggots when they're a month old.

The Magic Pudding

Quote from: Ali on July 07, 2012, 03:12:33 PM
I would have guessed fish too.  Off to Google.

You could just trust me.

Ali

Quote from: The Magic Pudding on July 07, 2012, 03:16:13 PM
Quote from: Ali on July 07, 2012, 03:12:33 PM
I would have guessed fish too.  Off to Google.

You could just trust me.

You've never detached my nose so.....

DeterminedJuliet

Quote from: The Magic Pudding on July 07, 2012, 03:16:13 PM
Quote from: Ali on July 07, 2012, 03:12:33 PM
I would have guessed fish too.  Off to Google.

You could just trust me.

What do Hippos eat, Oh Magical Puddin'?
"We've thought of life by analogy with a journey, with pilgrimage which had a serious purpose at the end, and the THING was to get to that end; success, or whatever it is, or maybe heaven after you're dead. But, we missed the point the whole way along; It was a musical thing and you were supposed to sing, or dance, while the music was being played.

Asmodean

Quote from: OldGit on July 07, 2012, 03:13:37 PM
It's hard to check without stopping the car, but I expect they have plenty of maggots when they're a month old.
Tempting...
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Genericguy

I don't see a downside in participating in christmas (santa) with your child, as long as it is not presented as real. Pretending is a huge part of childhood. I remember getting lost in it. The dinosaur toys were "real", although I knew they were not. There was a fine line between fantasy and reality as a child. It was as if we had control of the "line" and were able to blur it to blend reality with fantasy. If I had a child, I would introduce the story of Santa as something we pretend is real. I see no harm in that at all. Personally I would not say the words "Santa is not real". Maybe I'm over thinking it, but I feel like that would lessen the child's ability, or desire, to blend reality with fantasy.

The alternitave, however, can be devastating. I remember crying and being mad at my parents after I learned the truth. I felt betrayed. I also felt like an idiot in front of my friends. Someone (en-route maybe? I'm too lazy to check, sorry if I twist your words) said presenting Santa as reality is beneficial in that it provides a bit of distrust, giving the child the ability to discern fact and fiction. There are other ways to provide that ability. Perhaps you could tell the child you are going to tell a few lies throughout the day and he or she has to try to recognize them? This example is just off the top of my head and I'm sure other examples might be better, but my point is that it doesn't end badly. In fact it might be rewarding for the child to recognize the lie. It might give them a sense of pride as opposed to being humiliated and felling like an idiot.




DeterminedJuliet

Quote from: Genericguy on July 07, 2012, 04:13:57 PM
Someone (en-route maybe? I'm too lazy to check, sorry if I twist your words) said presenting Santa as reality is beneficial in that it provides a bit of distrust, giving the child the ability to discern fact and fiction.

I also feel like this isn't necessarily a lesson that children need to learn from their parents. There's a whole lot of treachery out there in the world and I know for a fact that wee man will be exposed to it. I'd rather he feel like I'm one of the few people that he can trust entirely, rather than trying to impart some kind of lesson about not being gullible, when I'm sure there'll be enough real-world experiences to talk about with him regarding that.
"We've thought of life by analogy with a journey, with pilgrimage which had a serious purpose at the end, and the THING was to get to that end; success, or whatever it is, or maybe heaven after you're dead. But, we missed the point the whole way along; It was a musical thing and you were supposed to sing, or dance, while the music was being played.