Queen's Diamond Jubilee

[En_Route]

I don't see either party as having "won" or "lost" in the exchange of views here. Those views are clearly passionately held on both sides and neither party is blameless for how the discussion developed. I do agree with Firebird in that the chances are very slim that any good would come from continuing on this topic.

Well,  if "I don't give a shit about your opinion" counts as a measured, rational rebuttal of a detailed argument, it would seem to follow that it is  equally impossible to counter the claims of theism by any process of logic or reasoning. Theists hold their views passionately too, usually with the same purblind fervour and refusal to engage in any logical exchange and with the same blithe disregard for the facts that Tank used to express his declarations.The original argument is of course dead. The interesting point is how this little kerfuffle illustrates the unconscious doublethink of many atheists in condemning the  blind prejudices and lack of intellectual  rigour of theists while exhibiting  exactly those characteristics when defending their own favoured positions.

As has been said now a couple of times, this needs to end. You do not need to keep trying to get the last word in. Understood?
The topic needs to get back on track.

I'll decide what I need to do. You in turn can decide how you choose to respond to that.None of it of course matters in the least. Meanwhile, I stick to my position that in a forum supposedly devoted to the free expression of ideas and which prides itself on its enlightenment and rationality,it is bizarre that the chief moderator's idea of open debate is to tell you to piss off.

And I was responding as an unbiased moderator to your seeming need to continue the pissing contest without provocation. We have rules of civility, which, while they may have been stepped on by more than one person here, only continue to be stepped over by you right now. First warning for failing to comply with the directives of a moderator.

I can't see what was uncivil, as opposed to say trenchant, about my last posting,  but anyway, I've made my point and am content to leave it there. You may therefore decommission your fearful armament of sanctions for the time being.

[McQ]

I don't see either party as having "won" or "lost" in the exchange of views here. Those views are clearly passionately held on both sides and neither party is blameless for how the discussion developed. I do agree with Firebird in that the chances are very slim that any good would come from continuing on this topic.

Well,  if "I don't give a shit about your opinion" counts as a measured, rational rebuttal of a detailed argument, it would seem to follow that it is  equally impossible to counter the claims of theism by any process of logic or reasoning. Theists hold their views passionately too, usually with the same purblind fervour and refusal to engage in any logical exchange and with the same blithe disregard for the facts that Tank used to express his declarations.The original argument is of course dead. The interesting point is how this little kerfuffle illustrates the unconscious doublethink of many atheists in condemning the  blind prejudices and lack of intellectual  rigour of theists while exhibiting  exactly those characteristics when defending their own favoured positions.

As has been said now a couple of times, this needs to end. You do not need to keep trying to get the last word in. Understood?
The topic needs to get back on track.

I'll decide what I need to do. You in turn can decide how you choose to respond to that.None of it of course matters in the least. Meanwhile, I stick to my position that in a forum supposedly devoted to the free expression of ideas and which prides itself on its enlightenment and rationality,it is bizarre that the chief moderator's idea of open debate is to tell you to piss off.

And I was responding as an unbiased moderator to your seeming need to continue the pissing contest without provocation. We have rules of civility, which, while they may have been stepped on by more than one person here, only continue to be stepped over by you right now. First warning for failing to comply with the directives of a moderator.

I can't see what was uncivil, as opposed to say trenchant, about my last posting,  but anyway, I've made my point and am content to leave it there. You may therefore decommission your fearful armament of sanctions for the time being.

The warning stands, as you seem to want to continue to have the final word, even with me. You may drop the sarcasm and the attitude and move on to something else.

[En_Route]

I don't see either party as having "won" or "lost" in the exchange of views here. Those views are clearly passionately held on both sides and neither party is blameless for how the discussion developed. I do agree with Firebird in that the chances are very slim that any good would come from continuing on this topic.

Well,  if "I don't give a shit about your opinion" counts as a measured, rational rebuttal of a detailed argument, it would seem to follow that it is  equally impossible to counter the claims of theism by any process of logic or reasoning. Theists hold their views passionately too, usually with the same purblind fervour and refusal to engage in any logical exchange and with the same blithe disregard for the facts that Tank used to express his declarations.The original argument is of course dead. The interesting point is how this little kerfuffle illustrates the unconscious doublethink of many atheists in condemning the  blind prejudices and lack of intellectual  rigour of theists while exhibiting  exactly those characteristics when defending their own favoured positions.

As has been said now a couple of times, this needs to end. You do not need to keep trying to get the last word in. Understood?
The topic needs to get back on track.

I'll decide what I need to do. You in turn can decide how you choose to respond to that.None of it of course matters in the least. Meanwhile, I stick to my position that in a forum supposedly devoted to the free expression of ideas and which prides itself on its enlightenment and rationality,it is bizarre that the chief moderator's idea of open debate is to tell you to piss off.

And I was responding as an unbiased moderator to your seeming need to continue the pissing contest without provocation. We have rules of civility, which, while they may have been stepped on by more than one person here, only continue to be stepped over by you right now. First warning for failing to comply with the directives of a moderator.

I can't see what was uncivil, as opposed to say trenchant, about my last posting,  but anyway, I've made my point and am content to leave it there. You may therefore decommission your fearful armament of sanctions for the time being.

The warning stands, as you seem to want to continue to have the final word, even with me. You may drop the sarcasm and the attitude and move on to something else.

"Even with me". You need to get over yourself.
Now exercise the power that obviously gives you such a thrill, and lends you that sense of importance which it is safe to assume is lacking elsewhere in your life, and exclude me from your charmed circle. 

[McQ]

I don't see either party as having "won" or "lost" in the exchange of views here. Those views are clearly passionately held on both sides and neither party is blameless for how the discussion developed. I do agree with Firebird in that the chances are very slim that any good would come from continuing on this topic.

Well,  if "I don't give a shit about your opinion" counts as a measured, rational rebuttal of a detailed argument, it would seem to follow that it is  equally impossible to counter the claims of theism by any process of logic or reasoning. Theists hold their views passionately too, usually with the same purblind fervour and refusal to engage in any logical exchange and with the same blithe disregard for the facts that Tank used to express his declarations.The original argument is of course dead. The interesting point is how this little kerfuffle illustrates the unconscious doublethink of many atheists in condemning the  blind prejudices and lack of intellectual  rigour of theists while exhibiting  exactly those characteristics when defending their own favoured positions.

As has been said now a couple of times, this needs to end. You do not need to keep trying to get the last word in. Understood?
The topic needs to get back on track.

I'll decide what I need to do. You in turn can decide how you choose to respond to that.None of it of course matters in the least. Meanwhile, I stick to my position that in a forum supposedly devoted to the free expression of ideas and which prides itself on its enlightenment and rationality,it is bizarre that the chief moderator's idea of open debate is to tell you to piss off.

And I was responding as an unbiased moderator to your seeming need to continue the pissing contest without provocation. We have rules of civility, which, while they may have been stepped on by more than one person here, only continue to be stepped over by you right now. First warning for failing to comply with the directives of a moderator.

I can't see what was uncivil, as opposed to say trenchant, about my last posting,  but anyway, I've made my point and am content to leave it there. You may therefore decommission your fearful armament of sanctions for the time being.

The warning stands, as you seem to want to continue to have the final word, even with me. You may drop the sarcasm and the attitude and move on to something else.

"Even with me". You need to get over yourself.
Now exercise the power that obviously gives you such a thrill, and lends you that sense of importance which it is safe to assume is lacking elsewhere in your life, and exclude me from your charmed circle. 

You're now attributing something to me as a personal attack. It also happens to be completely untrue. "Even with me" refers to "me" being an unbiased third party in this thread, which you have now completely torched. You completely misunderstood the meaning, choosing to act with pettiness, rather than with reasoned and measured response. That's strike two.

[En_Route]

I don't see either party as having "won" or "lost" in the exchange of views here. Those views are clearly passionately held on both sides and neither party is blameless for how the discussion developed. I do agree with Firebird in that the chances are very slim that any good would come from continuing on this topic.

Well,  if "I don't give a shit about your opinion" counts as a measured, rational rebuttal of a detailed argument, it would seem to follow that it is  equally impossible to counter the claims of theism by any process of logic or reasoning. Theists hold their views passionately too, usually with the same purblind fervour and refusal to engage in any logical exchange and with the same blithe disregard for the facts that Tank used to express his declarations.The original argument is of course dead. The interesting point is how this little kerfuffle illustrates the unconscious doublethink of many atheists in condemning the  blind prejudices and lack of intellectual  rigour of theists while exhibiting  exactly those characteristics when defending their own favoured positions.

As has been said now a couple of times, this needs to end. You do not need to keep trying to get the last word in. Understood?
The topic needs to get back on track.

I'll decide what I need to do. You in turn can decide how you choose to respond to that.None of it of course matters in the least. Meanwhile, I stick to my position that in a forum supposedly devoted to the free expression of ideas and which prides itself on its enlightenment and rationality,it is bizarre that the chief moderator's idea of open debate is to tell you to piss off.

And I was responding as an unbiased moderator to your seeming need to continue the pissing contest without provocation. We have rules of civility, which, while they may have been stepped on by more than one person here, only continue to be stepped over by you right now. First warning for failing to comply with the directives of a moderator.

I can't see what was uncivil, as opposed to say trenchant, about my last posting,  but anyway, I've made my point and am content to leave it there. You may therefore decommission your fearful armament of sanctions for the time being.

The warning stands, as you seem to want to continue to have the final word, even with me. You may drop the sarcasm and the attitude and move on to something else.

"Even with me". You need to get over yourself.
Now exercise the power that obviously gives you such a thrill, and lends you that sense of importance which it is safe to assume is lacking elsewhere in your life, and exclude me from your charmed circle. 

You're now attributing something to me as a personal attack. It also happens to be completely untrue. "Even with me" refers to "me" being an unbiased third party in this thread, which you have now completely torched. You completely misunderstood the meaning, choosing to act with pettiness, rather than with reasoned and measured response. That's strike two.

Just ban me will you.Please.

[Ali]

Can we stop this pissing contest so that I can get an answer to my question. *Gives you all my best wide eyed Mom-Stare*

Seriously curious - how is the American Revolutionary war portrayed in the UK.  I'm picturing something along the lines of

Chapter 1: Leading Up To The War

For the record, we were totally going to break up with that buncha cunts first.  But France told them that we were kind of seeing Australia (although "seeing" is kind of a euphamism for "throwing it in them", amiright?) so they were all "Blah blah blah taxes blah blah blah something about the Creator yada yada yada we want to mispell color and humor yakity yakity Sincerely, John Hancock."  Haha, "Hancock."  That's what she said.

Its not really covered, well I didn't do history past what I had to as it was ridiculously boring, everything I know about it really came from when I became interested, what was covered in greater depth whilst I was at school was the Atlantic slave trade. Otherwise its along the lines of Britain had an empire, we had colonies in the Americas, got into a brawl with France that lasted a good while thanks to George Washington, after the war was won the land it was over was given back to the natives, the colonies didn't like that, the colonies wanted representation in parliament and the Tories (or was it the Whigs, I cant remember) said "nah blud", because the war cost loadsa money the government introduced a tax which really pissed everyone off, some shit happened, there was lots of different wars, lost to what would then become the USA but beat all the rest. People are generally not fused about it.

The best description of the Revolutionary war I've ever heard.  "Some shit happened."  LMAO  <3 Crow

[Ecurb Noselrub]

I'm sorry I ever brought the English/Irish question up.  It appears that there are rather deep emotions involved that I did not understand. 

[Ali]

This whole thread brought out the people pleasing adult child of an alcoholic in me.  Did you see how hard I was working to make people laugh and stop fighting?  My next move was going to be tap dancing while wearing a paper hat and going "Yakititah! Yakititah!"


..........I think I'm still doing it. 

[En_Route]

This whole thread brought out the people pleasing adult child of an alcoholic in me.  Did you see how hard I was working to make people laugh and stop fighting?  My next move was going to be tap dancing while wearing a paper hat and going "Yakititah! Yakititah!"


..........I think I'm still doing it. 

I had something a little more exotic in mind.

[McQ]

  My next move was going to be tap dancing while wearing a paper hat and going "Yakititah! Yakititah!"

I'd pay cash for this.

[Sandra Craft]

  My next move was going to be tap dancing while wearing a paper hat and going "Yakititah! Yakititah!"

I'd pay cash for this.

I'd pay cash to find out what "yakititah" means.

[Ali]

  My next move was going to be tap dancing while wearing a paper hat and going "Yakititah! Yakititah!"

I'd pay cash for this.

I'd pay cash to find out what "yakititah" means.

I have it in my head that "Yakititah, yakititah" is what old timey entertainers say when they tap dance as a joke.  Like, imagine Jimmy Durante tap dancing across a room before saying "Good night Mrs Whoseywhatsits, where ever you are...."  I imagine that as he's tap dancing, he's hissing "yakititah, yakititah!"  Is that not a real thing? 

[AnimatedDirt]

I have it in my head that "Yakititah, yakititah" is what old timey entertainers say when they tap dance as a joke.  Like, imagine Jimmy Durante tap dancing across a room before saying "Good night Mrs Whoseywhatsits, where ever you are...."  I imagine that as he's tap dancing, he's hissing "yakititah, yakititah!"  Is that not a real thing?

Need audio.

[DeterminedJuliet]

  My next move was going to be tap dancing while wearing a paper hat and going "Yakititah! Yakititah!"

I'd pay cash for this.

I'd pay cash to find out what "yakititah" means.

I have it in my head that "Yakititah, yakititah" is what old timey entertainers say when they tap dance as a joke.  Like, imagine Jimmy Durante tap dancing across a room before saying "Good night Mrs Whoseywhatsits, where ever you are...."  I imagine that as he's tap dancing, he's hissing "yakititah, yakititah!"  Is that not a real thing? 

This must be demonstrated at the Meetup. We're developing quite the interesting itinerary.

[Ali]

  My next move was going to be tap dancing while wearing a paper hat and going "Yakititah! Yakititah!"

I'd pay cash for this.

I'd pay cash to find out what "yakititah" means.

I have it in my head that "Yakititah, yakititah" is what old timey entertainers say when they tap dance as a joke.  Like, imagine Jimmy Durante tap dancing across a room before saying "Good night Mrs Whoseywhatsits, where ever you are...."  I imagine that as he's tap dancing, he's hissing "yakititah, yakititah!"  Is that not a real thing? 

This must be demonstrated at the Meetup. We're developing quite the interesting itinerary.

Haha, ok, deal. Those of you who want to know what the heck I'm talking about have to join  Sunday's meet up. And then we'll help DJ choose a dress.