Delusions

[Sweetdeath]

I know the world is gray and people are in different situations, but if I am nof true to myself, I dont know who I am. Dont get me wrong, I am not sporting banners, but I am in a commited relationship , and I am a bit openly political. So knowing me for more than a day and you'll know  I am a gay, atheist who fights for equal rights of both sexes, and animals!!

[Asmodean]

I know the world is gray

The world is The Asmo. 

...who fights for equal rights of both sexes, and animals!!

Much like people, animals have what rights any given society grants them. Do you want animals to have equal rights to people, as implied by wording, or is it ok in your book to use the animals we have bred to be used?

[Sweetdeath]

I know the world is gray

The world is The Asmo. 

...who fights for equal rights of both sexes, and animals!!

Much like people, animals have what rights any given society grants them. Do you want animals to have equal rights to people, as implied by wording, or is it ok in your book to use the animals we have bred to be used?

It's an Asmo witld.

I eat  meat, don't get me wrong, but I want better, more humane conditions for them.  They are a source of food.  They shouldnt be tortured...
I would go further, but its bedtime x_x 2am .

[Asmodean]

...Not to mention a derail 

Just wanted to clarify if equal rights for both sexes and animals were one thought or two separate ones 

[keithpenrod]

...Not to mention a derail 

Just wanted to clarify if equal rights for both sexes and animals were one thought or two separate ones 

I think that both sexes of animals should have equal rights.   

[Guardian85]

I think that both sexes of animals should have equal rights.   

...to become lunch. 

[Asmodean]

...to become lunch. 

Yes. Some animals are very good at that right there. 

[Amicale]

...to become lunch. 

Yes. Some animals are very good at that right there. 

You guys are delusional.  Everyone knows they're best for supper!   

(see how I un-derailed that?)

[Tank]

Yea, my brother came out as gay, but won't come out as an agnostic!!

'kin hell fire! That really just about says it all for America and 'free speech' doesn't it!

[keithpenrod]

Yea, my brother came out as gay, but won't come out as an agnostic!!

'kin hell fire! That really just about says it all for America and 'free speech' doesn't it!

America has free speech?  When did that start?

[Beachdragon]

Yea, my brother came out as gay, but won't come out as an agnostic!!

'kin hell fire! That really just about says it all for America and 'free speech' doesn't it!

America has free speech?  When did that start?

It began and ended with the signing of the Constitution.  Since the last signature, a lot of people have been trying very hard to ignore it!

[keithpenrod]

Yea, my brother came out as gay, but won't come out as an agnostic!!

'kin hell fire! That really just about says it all for America and 'free speech' doesn't it!

America has free speech?  When did that start?

It began and ended with the signing of the Constitution.  Since the last signature, a lot of people have been trying very hard to ignore it!

It's pretty dead now.  Can't say "bomb" anywhere near an airport.  Can't even make jokes to TSA officers.  And that's just the law.  Then there's societal pressure.  Say you're gay and you get bullied in middle and high school.  Say you're atheist and no one talks to you anymore, except to try to exorcise you.  Say you're skeptical about the official story of the twin towers and you're labeled a "truther".  At least you can admit you don't believe in Santa and Norse gods and still be considered sane.

[Sweetdeath]

Yea, my brother came out as gay, but won't come out as an agnostic!!

'kin hell fire! That really just about says it all for America and 'free speech' doesn't it!

America has free speech?  When did that start?

It began and ended with the signing of the Constitution.  Since the last signature, a lot of people have been trying very hard to ignore it!

It's pretty dead now.  Can't say "bomb" anywhere near an airport.  Can't even make jokes to TSA officers.  And that's just the law.  Then there's societal pressure.  Say you're gay and you get bullied in middle and high school.  Say you're atheist and no one talks to you anymore, except to try to exorcise you.  Say you're skeptical about the official story of the twin towers and you're labeled a "truther".  At least you can admit you don't believe in Santa and Norse gods and still be considered sane.

[Whitney]

It's pretty dead now.

I don't think so...there are lots of places in the world where it truly is dead.

Can't say "bomb" anywhere near an airport.

that's a safety issue as it could cause a riot.  There are other similar anti-riot laws that prevent yelling bomb, fire etc in crowds.

Can't even make jokes to TSA officers.  And that's just the law. 

That's a law?  I can't find record of it anywhere on the TSA website or in the Patriot Act.  Joking a lot probably would be a good way to get pulled into the special room for further screening as it would be irregular behavior.  Anyway, I'd be more concerned about the Patriot Act than what the TSA is specifically doing.

Then there's societal pressure.  Say you're gay and you get bullied in middle and high school.  Say you're atheist and no one talks to you anymore, except to try to exorcise you.  Say you're skeptical about the official story of the twin towers and you're labeled a "truther". 

I don't think peer pressure really counts as inhibiting the right to free speech...it's just others exercising their right.

[Firebird]

Yea, my brother came out as gay, but won't come out as an agnostic!!

'kin hell fire! That really just about says it all for America and 'free speech' doesn't it!

America has free speech?  When did that start?

It began and ended with the signing of the Constitution.  Since the last signature, a lot of people have been trying very hard to ignore it!

It's pretty dead now.  Can't say "bomb" anywhere near an airport.  Can't even make jokes to TSA officers.  And that's just the law.  Then there's societal pressure.  Say you're gay and you get bullied in middle and high school.  Say you're atheist and no one talks to you anymore, except to try to exorcise you.  Say you're skeptical about the official story of the twin towers and you're labeled a "truther".  At least you can admit you don't believe in Santa and Norse gods and still be considered sane.

Let's not go overboard here. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from societal pressure. Yes, maybe I'll call you a "truther" if you think the twin towers were a government plot. That's my right under free speech too. Neither one of us will be prosecuted for saying that, which is the point of free speech. Being bullied is definitely a horrible thing, but it's not a free-speech issue. If you're threatened or attacked, then that's assault, and the school is responsible for enforcing that. If they don't take responsibility, you have the right to go to the police, and so forth.

The "bomb" and joking with TSA officer quotes are analogous to the example of yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater, which is definitely not allowed. Yes, there are times when people have gone overboard in the name of public safety due to an innocuous remark, but that's a big leap in logic to infer that freedom of speech is "dead" because of that.