An Experiment in Xian Perception

[Sweetdeath]

Oh brother, everything is a sin, am I right?

Anyway have fun with that crap. I'm just going to be happy over here. Got a mlp convention to attend on Saturday. >___>

[AnimatedDirt]

Oh brother, everything is a sin, am I right?

No.  Not everything.

[Sweetdeath]

Oh brother, everything is a sin, am I right?

No.  Not everything.

Everything but worshipping god?

[MadBomr101]

The NIV Commentary gives this as an interpretation on that text: "looks at a woman lustfully. Not a passing glance but a willful, calculated stare that arouses sexual desire. According to Jesus this is a form of adultery even if it is only "in his heart."

Yeah and what a steaming load of bullshit that is.  Let's make thinking a sin.  I'm telling ya, it's no wonder they put this jerkoff to death.  

[AnimatedDirt]

Everything but worshipping god?

Almost, not quite.

[Sweetdeath]

The NIV Commentary gives this as an interpretation on that text: "looks at a woman lustfully. Not a passing glance but a willful, calculated stare that arouses sexual desire. According to Jesus this is a form of adultery even if it is only "in his heart."

Yeah and what a steaming load of bullshit that is.  Let's makes thinking a sin.  I'm telling ya, it's no wonder they put this jerkoff to death.   

Ramen!

[Traveler]

I don't think it's necessarily ALL our thoughts that pop in and out of our minds, as this is obvious to us and therefore more so to the fairytale God, but those that we ponder over and over, think on, imagine, visualize...

The NIV Commentary gives this as an interpretation on that text: "looks at a woman lustfully. Not a passing glance but a willful, calculated stare that arouses sexual desire. According to Jesus this is a form of adultery even if it is only "in his heart."

That makes more sense than every passing thought being a sin. We'd all be doomed, doomed, DOOMED if it was the latter. lol Personally, I think the whole sin thing is silly. Rather, I think we're all born innocent. But, hey, I'm not christian, so there ya go.

[Sweetdeath]

Wouldn't physical actions matter more than thoughts? e_e Can god now read minds? Does he think he's cool like Professor Xiavier?

[Traveler]

Wouldn't physical actions matter more than thoughts? ...

Well *I* think so. But I guess god is the thought police.

[Sweetdeath]

Wouldn't physical actions matter more than thoughts? ...

Well *I* think so. But I guess god is the thought police.

Glad he isn't real, or I might just give a fuck.

[Stevil]

I'm going to refrain from saying many things right now, so I won't break rules or get kicked off this amazing forum...
But good sir, you cannot state your opinions as facts. It's what I dislike THE MOST of religious people.
My love is wonderful, joyful, sad, complicated, sometimes stressful and everything a human being is allowed to feel, but my love is NOT A SIN.

I'm sorry for offending you.  It was not my intention.  We are in the religion section of this forum and within a thread about a "Xtian Perception" and I'm giving my opinion.  In context of "Xtian" AND the OP citing a commonly known position of this religious book, saying, "Homosexual acts is sin" is quite spot on, factual...in context.  You may disagree.  We're not specifically discussing our position on the that subject, rather what it means that more and more are accepting.  I would humbly ask you go back and read from the start.  MAYBE you will see my position different or simply ask my position.

Again, I apologize for offending you.

I'm wondering if Sweetdeath saw the part where you called it an abomination. It seems much more offensive that simply stating the Christian perceived fact that homosexuality is a sin.

[Stevil]

"You have heard that it was said, `Do not commit adultery.'  But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart."

I personally have acted on this probably more times than the average person has acted on sex physically.  Who's the "bigger" sinner?

It seems incredibly strange and against nature to attempt to deny the primal urges of sexuality. Without sex we fail to exist

[MadBomr101]

Wouldn't physical actions matter more than thoughts?

Absolutely.  Otherwise, we'd have jail terms for thinking about robbing a bank or raping the cashier at the Circle K.  I'll go one further, I've murdered my boss in my heart SO many times.  Among men, I've broken no law but so far as god is concerned, I'm a serial killer.

DUMB!

[MadBomr101]

It seems incredibly strange and against nature to attempt to deny the primal urges of sexuality. Without sex we fail to exist

Or have a hell of a good time.   

[AnimatedDirt]

It seems incredibly strange and against nature to attempt to deny the primal urges of sexuality. Without sex we fail to exist

Who said to deny primal urges of sexuality.  This is taking too much liberty and simply coming to your own biased conclusions.  If the fairytale, the God created sex.  I think it is obvious to the less biased that sex is therefore a good thing.
Seems like something similar that Davin wrote on:

Is there some aspect of doubt or inability to rationally defend the concept that results in people resorting to extreme irrational means to defend the belief in the concept?