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Started by Egor, December 09, 2011, 07:16:24 PM

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OldGit

AFAIK no atheist ever burned a christian.

Asmodean

Quote from: OldGit on December 10, 2011, 07:11:24 PM
AFAIK no atheist ever burned a christian.
Oh, maybe someone did, but not as a general policy... We aren't all that notorious for burning witches, crosses and witches on crosses either
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Luxembourg trembles.

xSilverPhinx

Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on December 10, 2011, 07:09:52 PM
Quote from: Too Few Lions on December 10, 2011, 07:01:28 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 10, 2011, 06:32:37 PM
In fact, the number of non believers grows, which is probably what the world could use right now ::)
Amen to that!

One could consider us breathing room between various religious zealotries.

Necessary buffer zones. ;D

That would be ideal ::)
I am what survives if it's slain - Zack Hemsey


Crocoduck

Quote from: Tank on December 09, 2011, 09:34:25 PM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on December 09, 2011, 09:11:57 PM
{snip}
Oh for goodness sake, Ed, unclench.  You'll find your self-fulfilling prophesies fulfilling themselves a good deal less.

Well said BCE.
I concur
As we all know, the miracle of fishes and loaves is only scientifically explainable through the medium of casseroles
Dobermonster
However some of the jumped up jackasses do need a damn good kicking. Not that they will respond to the kicking but just to show they can be kicked
Some dude in a Tank

MadBomr101

Quote from: Egor on December 10, 2011, 07:11:34 AM
Quote from: MadBomr101 on December 09, 2011, 10:45:34 PM
Quote from: Egor on December 09, 2011, 07:16:24 PMI am working on a book about atheism...

This doesn't sound like a good idea.

From what I've read here as Egor's past starts to trickle out little by little, it's sounding to me like he's a very enthusiastic Xian with a fairly well established bias against atheists.  This suggests little or no real insight into atheism or atheists as people so writing a book on the subject would be like me writing a book on what its like to be an NFL quarterback and doing so from an irrational position of hating NFL quarterbacks to begin with.

I know what an NFL quarterback is and what he does and I can look up his career stats but I have no idea what it's like to actually be an NFL quarterback but, man, they suck and I want the world to know it!

I'd stick with the Xian sci-fi


You know, you have really got me thinking. I wrote and published a novel; it was a ghost story, and some people really liked it. I've always believed fiction was a better way of telling the truth than non-fiction. And even though I have this outline of this book about fighting atheism, I just don't get good vibes from it. It's like I'm stuck in this mindset telling me to do it, but like God is  telling me not to do it, but because I'm stuck in the mindset, it's hard for me to discern the will of God. I have no idea why I'm telling this to an atheist, but it's late and I suppose I'm bored at work.

Nonetheless, it was this post that got me really thinking about it. I even think I have a good idea for a novel. I just don't know. And then I think about it, I already have a blog, why write a non-fiction book? To sell? To who?  I even have a novel review site that I maintain. I like literature.

Now I'm babbling.  :-X

You should go with your gut on this.  An atheist book from your decidedly Christian worldview can't help but be anything but a cover to cover collection of misinformation and biased conclusions.  Think of it like this, you don't want me writing a book on Christianity, do you?
- Bomr
I'm waiting for the movie of my life to be made.  It should cost about $7.23 and that includes the budget for special effects.

Norfolk And Chance

Quote from: Egor on December 10, 2011, 07:11:34 AM
I've always believed fiction was a better way of telling the truth than non-fiction.

You don't say.
Reality is the stuff that doesn't go away when you stop believing in it ~ Matt Dillahunty

Norfolk And Chance

Quote from: Egor on December 10, 2011, 04:17:41 AM
That means, I'm not going to argue or defend Leviticus or Genesis.

How convenient.

Reality is the stuff that doesn't go away when you stop believing in it ~ Matt Dillahunty

squidfetish

Quote from: Egor on December 10, 2011, 04:17:41 AM
I believe the New Testament Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, are the only works that are the inerrant Word of God.

Inerrant my fat hairy ass... good luck with that one..

Good works to be seen of men
Matt 5:16
Good works not to be seen of men
Matt 6:1

Christ taught non-resistance
Matt 5:39/ Matt 26:52
Christ taught and practiced physical resistance
Luke 22:36/ John 2:15

Christ warned his followers not to fear being killed
Luke 12:4
Christ himself avoided the Jews for fear of being killed
John 7:1

Importunity in prayer commended
Luke 18:5,7
Importunity in prayer condemned
Matt 6:7,8

John the Baptist was Elias
Matt 11:14
John the Baptist was not Elias
John 1:21

The father of Joseph, Mary's husband was Jacob
Matt 1:16
The father of Mary's husband was Heli
Luke 3:23

There were fourteen generations from Abraham to David
Matt 1:17
There were but thirteen generations from Abraham to David
Matt 1:2-6

There were fourteen generations from the Babylonian captivity
to Christ.
Matt 1:17
There were but thirteen generations from the Babylonian
captivity to Christ
Matt 1:12-16

The infant Christ was taken into Egypt
Matt 2:14,15,19,21,23
The infant Christ was not taken into Egypt
Luke 2:22, 39

Christ was tempted in the wilderness
Mark 1:12,13
Christ was not tempted in the wilderness
John 2:1,2

Christ preached his first sermon on the mount
Matt 5:1,2
Christ preached his first sermon on the plain
Luke 6:17,20

John was in prison when Jesus went into Galilee
Mark 1:14
John was not in prison when Jesus went into Galilee
John 1:43/ John 3:22-24

Christ's disciples were commanded to go forth with a staff
and sandals
Mark 6:8,9
Christ's disciples were commanded to go forth with neither
staffs nor sandals.
Matt 10:9,10

A woman of Canaan besought Jesus
Matt 15:22
It was a Greek woman who besought Him
Mark 7:26

Two blind men besought Jesus
Matt 20:30
Only one blind man besought Him
Luke 18:35,38

Christ was crucified at the third hour
Mark 15:25
Christ was not crucified until the sixth hour
John 19:14,15

The two thieves reviled Christ.
Matt 27:44/ Mark 15:32
Only one of the thieves reviled Christ
Luke 23:39,40

Satan entered into Judas while at supper
John 13:27
Satan entered into him before the supper
Luke 22:3,4,7

There was but one woman who came to the sepulchre
John 20:1
There were two women who came to the sepulchre
Matt 28:1

There were three women who came to the sepulchre
Mark 16:1
There were more than three women who came to the sepulchre
Luke 24:10

It was at sunrise when they came to the sepulchre
Mark 16:2
It was some time before sunrise when they came.
John 20:1

There were two angels seen by the women at the sepulchre, and
they were standing up.
Luke 24:4
There was but one angel seen, and he was sitting down.
Matt 28:2,5

There were two angels seen within the sepulchre.
John 20:11,12
There was but one angel seen within the sepulchre
Mark 16:5

Christ was to be three days and three nights in the grave
Matt 12:40
Christ was but two days and two nights in the grave
Mark 15:25,42,44,45,46; 16:9>

The disciples were commanded immediately after the
resurrection to go into Galilee
Matt 28:10
The disciples were commanded immediately after the
resurrection to go tarry at Jerusalem
Luke 24:49

Jesus first appeared to the eleven disciples in a room at
Jerusalem
Luke 24:33,36,37/ John 20:19
Jesus first appeared to the eleven on a mountain in Galilee
Matt 28:16,17

Christ is equal with God
John 10:30/ Phil 2:5
Christ is not equal with God
John 14:28/ Matt 24:36

Jesus was all-powerful
Matt 28:18/ John 3:35
Jesus was not all-powerful
Mark 6:5

The law was superseded by the Christian dispensation
Luke 16:16/ Eph 2:15/ Rom 7:6
The law was not superseded by the Christian dispensation
Matt 5:17-19

Christ's mission was peace
Luke 2:13,14
Christ's mission was not peace
Matt 10:34

Christ received not testimony from man
John 5:33,34
Christ did receive testimony from man
John 15:27
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OldGit

Blimey - good collection, squidfetish!

The Magic Pudding

Quote from: Asmodean on December 10, 2011, 07:43:32 PM
Quote from: OldGit on December 10, 2011, 07:11:24 PM
AFAIK no atheist ever burned a christian.
Oh, maybe someone did, but not as a general policy... We aren't all that notorious for burning witches, crosses and witches on crosses either

That would be so wasteful
I hate it when someone leaves the toaster on high and my toast gets burnt.
You can try to scrape the black off but it's not the same.

Asmodean

Quote from: The Magic Pudding on December 13, 2011, 06:17:07 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on December 10, 2011, 07:43:32 PM
Quote from: OldGit on December 10, 2011, 07:11:24 PM
AFAIK no atheist ever burned a christian.
Oh, maybe someone did, but not as a general policy... We aren't all that notorious for burning witches, crosses and witches on crosses either

That would be so wasteful
I hate it when someone leaves the toaster on high and my toast gets burnt.
You can try to scrape the black off but it's not the same.
Precisely.  >:( Ruin nice snacks like that!
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Too Few Lions

Quote from: Norfolk And Chance on December 12, 2011, 12:42:48 PM
Quote from: Egor on December 10, 2011, 07:11:34 AM
I've always believed fiction was a better way of telling the truth than non-fiction.

You don't say.
yeah, I thought that was a rather ironic comment from a Christian

Too Few Lions

Quote from: Egor on December 10, 2011, 04:17:41 AM
I believe the New Testament Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, are the only works that are the inerrant Word of God.
All written anonymously decades after the supposed lifetime of Jesus. We don't know by whom, where or even when they were first written. We have no copies of the original gospels, what we have is copies made centuries later.

Plus there are also over 400,000 variations in the known New Testament manuscripts dating from the 2nd to 15th centuries, which is more than the number of words in the New Testament, so it's hardly inerrant!

And the gospels were originally written in Koine Greek. If they are the inerrant word of your deity, your god chose to speak to us in an obscure dead language.

All of this hardly seems like the best way for the creator of the universe to converse with his most prized creations...

squidfetish

reptilian overlord

xm1

Quote from: Too Few Lions on December 13, 2011, 12:01:59 PM
Quote from: Egor on December 10, 2011, 04:17:41 AM
I believe the New Testament Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, are the only works that are the inerrant Word of God.
All written anonymously decades after the supposed lifetime of Jesus. We don't know by whom, where or even when they were first written. We have no copies of the original gospels, what we have is copies made centuries later.

Plus there are also over 400,000 variations in the known New Testament manuscripts dating from the 2nd to 15th centuries, which is more than the number of words in the New Testament, so it's hardly inerrant!

And the gospels were originally written in Koine Greek. If they are the inerrant word of your deity, your god chose to speak to us in an obscure dead language.

All of this hardly seems like the best way for the creator of the universe to converse with his most prized creations...

This sounds gross but I really really love this post.