Thou Shalt Not Test The Lord

[Guardian85]

It's like if I went to a Christian website and said "I'm a Christian!  Totally!  I don't believe in god, or the bible, or that Jesus ever existed or that the teachings of Jesus have any value in anyone's life, but I'm a Christian, and ps, I know better than the rest of you so-called Christians what it means to be a Christian."  Yeah, I'm sure people would have infinite patience with that.  

Actually a very good explenation of the incident. Wish I had thought of it.

[Tank]

It's like if I went to a Christian website and said "I'm a Christian!  Totally!  I don't believe in god, or the bible, or that Jesus ever existed or that the teachings of Jesus have any value in anyone's life, but I'm a Christian, and ps, I know better than the rest of you so-called Christians what it means to be a Christian."  Yeah, I'm sure people would have infinite patience with that.  

Actually a very good explenation of the incident. Wish I had thought of it.

Yep. That's pretty much what happened.

[AnimatedDirt]

A person can say something, but only in certain situation can the words mean something else or have a context to them otherwise, *you seem to think words mean exactly what they say and nothing more.

Either cite where I've said anything like this, or retract your error.

I never said YOU, Davin.  I'm not about to search out this forum for all the times that the Atheist says, "That's what the bible says...don't try and change the meaning of words..." and quote it here for you.

I don't really care what claims Arian has made in the past that are contradictions.  I'm interested in his apparent willingness to explain all *you want about the bible.  It seems quite a chore to do so.

[statichaos]

A person can say something, but only in certain situation can the words mean something else or have a context to them otherwise, *you seem to think words mean exactly what they say and nothing more.

Either cite where I've said anything like this, or retract your error.

I never said YOU, Davin.  I'm not about to search out this forum for all the times that the Atheist says, "That's what the bible says...don't try and change the meaning of words..." and quote it here for you.

I don't really care what claims Arian has made in the past that are contradictions.  I'm interested in his apparent willingness to explain all *you want about the bible.  It seems quite a chore to do so.

If one's statements lead to numerous obvious questions regarding what seem to be inconsistencies and obvious fallacies, then perhaps that says more about the initial statements than it does about those who ask the questions.

[AnimatedDirt]

If one's statements lead to numerous obvious questions regarding what seem to be inconsistencies and obvious fallacies, then perhaps that says more about the initial statements than it does about those who ask the questions.

If this is true, then everyone that is not an Atheist (according to the Atheist thinking) makes statements of inconsistencies and obvious fallacies.  Now what?  I believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior of my life.  Furthermore, I believe and state that God is the Creator of the universe.  Is that not a statement of inconsistency and a fallacy according to the disbelief of Atheism?  Basically according to Atheism, I believe in a fairytale as Truth.

[Davin]

A person can say something, but only in certain situation can the words mean something else or have a context to them otherwise, *you seem to think words mean exactly what they say and nothing more.

Either cite where I've said anything like this, or retract your error.

I never said YOU, Davin.  I'm not about to search out this forum for all the times that the Atheist says, "That's what the bible says...don't try and change the meaning of words..." and quote it here for you.

I don't really care what claims Arian has made in the past that are contradictions.  I'm interested in his apparent willingness to explain all *you want about the bible.  It seems quite a chore to do so.

You did say, "you seem to think words mean exactly what they say and nothing more." Whether you meant the you as a singular "you" or in the "you people" kind of way, I'm still on the other end of it. Especially so, because you were responding to me.

[Davin]

Basically according to Atheism, I believe in a fairytale as Truth.

According to atheism: "". Because atheism makes no claims, nor does it have any position on your beliefs.

[AnimatedDirt]

You did say, "you seem to think words mean exactly what they say and nothing more." Whether you meant the you as a singular "you" or in the "you people" kind of way, I'm still on the other end of it. Especially so, because you were responding to me.

Wow...so now I need to be careful not to implicate you specifically when speaking of a whole.  Ok.  I'll make note of this new expectation of me.

[AnimatedDirt]

Basically according to Atheism, I believe in a fairytale as Truth.

According to atheism: "". Because atheism makes no claims, nor does it have any position on your beliefs.

No position other than disbelief or that the belief is nonsense, delusion...

[Ali]

That Arian is an excellent troll; he can stir up shite even when he's long gone again.

[Davin]

You did say, "you seem to think words mean exactly what they say and nothing more." Whether you meant the you as a singular "you" or in the "you people" kind of way, I'm still on the other end of it. Especially so, because you were responding to me.

Wow...so now I need to be careful not to implicate you specifically when speaking of a whole.  Ok.  I'll make note of this new expectation of me.

Nah, you just need to not implicate me then act like my response is unwarranted when I dispute it.

Basically according to Atheism, I believe in a fairytale as Truth.

According to atheism: "". Because atheism makes no claims, nor does it have any position on your beliefs.

No position other than disbelief[...]

Correct.

[...]or that the belief is nonsense, delusion...

Incorrect.

[AnimatedDirt]

[...]or that the belief is nonsense, delusion...

Incorrect.

I'll try and remember to quote this the next time I see an Atheist spout off that Christians are "so stupid and deluded" (to that effect) in thinking x or y...or that they hate that people cannot think when presented with "logic"...have no patience for...

[Sweetdeath]

That Arian is an excellent troll; he can stir up shite even when he's long gone again.

Seriously.

[Davin]

[...]or that the belief is nonsense, delusion...

Incorrect.

I'll try and remember to quote this the next time I see an Atheist spout off that Christians are "so stupid and deluded" (to that effect) in thinking x or y...or that they hate that people cannot think when presented with "logic"...have no patience for...

Please do, then you'll understand that it's not about atheism, but what that specific atheist spouts.

Imagine taking responsibility for all theists. WBC, Islam, Judaism... and every other one. I keep in mind that not every theist speaks for all theists when a theist says, "Die you fucking piece of shit and burn in fucking hell for not believing in god. I hope god himself punishes you personally to the most extreme amount of suffering possible."

[AnimatedDirt]

[...]or that the belief is nonsense, delusion...

Incorrect.

I'll try and remember to quote this the next time I see an Atheist spout off that Christians are "so stupid and deluded" (to that effect) in thinking x or y...or that they hate that people cannot think when presented with "logic"...have no patience for...

Please do, then you'll understand that it's not about atheism, but what that specific atheist spouts.

Imagine taking resposibility for all theists. WBC, Islam, Judaism... and every other one. I keep in mind that not every theist speaks for all theists when a theist says, "Die you fucking piece of shit and burn in fucking hell for not believing in god. I hope god himself punishes you personally to the most extreme amount of suffering possible."

I'm glad you do.  So when I'm not speaking of YOU specifically but others, I may use *you.  Don't be offended.