Faith is Greater than Reason

[Egor]

Oh my.

He has quote mined me and made out that we were having a jovial conversation with the title of his blog post
"Stevil and I Discuss Faith".

So what? You responded to what I wrote about this and I wanted to discuss it in my blog because there is no way to have a rational discussion in Raving Atheist--as you know. The title is not dishonest--YOU responded to my post. I merely answered it in my blog. And I'm not under any obligation to respond to every bit of your post. You wrote what you wrote.

And in case you haven't noticed. I get some 1500 hits a month on that blog, Christians and Atheists alike. You aren't the only one. My response to your post in Raving Atheist is something I wanted to share with all those who read my blog.

[Egor]

I actually think he might be a little dangerous.  Not in a "Oh noes, I'm scared he's going to convert me to Christianity!" kind of way, but in a "Delusions of Grandeur + an unnatural fixation on a group that he considers 'the enemy' = if he had a gun he might shoot one of us and crow about being a warrior for God" kind of way.

I'm an American. I have two guns. Imagine that? And yet, I've never shot anyone. How can that be? Oh yeah, I'm a Christian and I value other people as creations of God our Father!

[Guardian85]

You are so full of it, Egor....*chucklin*

I'd like to make you aware of something, and I'm kind of using your response to tell everyone the same thing. I probably have around 200 replies to this OP over the forums that I have placed it in. When I go back to respond, I couldn't possible read them all. So what I do is look for an insult or some kind of blasphemy and as soon as I read it, I stop and go to the next post. I can get through a lot of dreck pretty fast that way. So while I'm sure you thought I read your post to get to the end of it, I didn't.  I saw this bit at the end before ever reading it and decided not to read it but rather use it as a cautionary tale.

Bye, whoever you were. I never even read your nic.

Which is the typical theist response of shoving your fingers in your ears every time someone says something you don't like. Some kind of blasphemy? Need I remind you that everything we post in these forums could be construed as blasphemy by believers?

But what do you do when you end up in the Dark Ages? An incurable disease, for instance. If faith is the creative force that brings things into existence, and if Jesus was right in trying to teach us to have faith and to use it, might it not be that we have not tapped the full human potential?

That is a very big if, and most people on this site will not agree with that statement unless you butress it with fact. And not the kind of "fact" that are in your head. Something that can be touched or mesured, please.

[Egor]

But the way he is going about it, well, I don't see that anyone, who know who he is, will be interested in paying money for his book

I'm not writing a book on faith--yet. But I will. The book I'm writing now is about how to believe in God. You probably wouldn't be interested.

[Egor]

I wish he would stop being embarrassing with his "My ideas are nuclear fire on Atheist forums!"  Maybe he doesn't feel embarrassed, but I wince inside when I see those words on his blog, and I compare his personal feelings about his presented ideas here, which I don't find compelling (and others here don't seem too fussed, either).  Nuclear fire...oh, brother.  It's unbearably...undignified.  It's undignified to be so boastful, and even worse when basis of his boasting is unfounded or unproven.    

He should be quite embarrassed about that, but he seems to be very happy with his lack of self awareness.

Yeah, that's why I have to be so careful not to let my posts overheat. And I think we know why.

So, in an effort to do that. I'm done in this thread. I don't have anything else to say, and everyone has had a chance to comment, and I've answered everyone I can in the best way that I can. Tristan I just can't hang with the length of your replies. I'm sorry. I don't have that much time.

It would be nice to respond to some of 'yall's posts but then they become my posts, don't they? So, take care for now. See you next year (I think in internet forum time that means next week )

[The Magic Pudding]

How do you avoid misplacing your faith?
Humans have weaknesses and I'm not talking about moral flaws, magicians know misdirection.
Behold my left hand, while my left hides the coin.
People yearn for more than the mundane and will be enlivened by a ghost story.
How do you guard yourself from being misled?

[Guardian85]

Yeah, that's why I have to be so careful not to let my posts overheat. And I think we know why.

So, in an effort to do that. I'm done in this thread. I don't have anything else to say, and everyone has had a chance to comment, and I've answered everyone I can in the best way that I can. Tristan I just can't hang with the length of your replies. I'm sorry. I don't have that much time.

It would be nice to respond to some of 'yall's posts but then they become my posts, don't they? So, take care for now. See you next year (I think in internet forum time that means next week )

And yet again he is out of here! I can't wait to see what crazy thing he will suggest next time...

(Oh, and the reasons your threads overheat is because of your confrontationalist personality and lack of critical insight)

[The Magic Pudding]

And yet again he is out of here! I can't wait to see what crazy thing he will suggest next time...

(Oh, and the reasons your threads overheat is because of your confrontationalist personality and lack of critical insight)

Never mind Guardian, I could pretend to be an Egor if it would help.   

[Too Few Lions]

Never mind Guardian, I could pretend to be an Egor if it would help.   

I'd like to see that MagicPud, could you swap the queen's hat for some barbed wire or crown of thorns?

[The Magic Pudding]

I'd like to see that MagicPud, could you swap the queen's hat for some barbed wire or crown of thorns?

I don't think I'm the most qualified, I have gaps in my bibely knowledge, I can compensate by raising above and shunning those who force my floatyness.  Fnuck the razor wire crown, I will remain elegant, question me as you will.

[Too Few Lions]

But what do you do when you end up in the Dark Ages? An incurable disease, for instance. If faith is the creative force that brings things into existence, and if Jesus was right in trying to teach us to have faith and to use it, might it not be that we have not tapped the full human potential?

As Guardian85 has said, saying 'faith is the creative force that brings things into existence' is just your opinion, and not one I'd agree with.

But what people did in the Dark Ages is live short miserable lives with an average lifespan in the thirties, that's what happens when people decide that faith in a god is the most important thing. Science, technology, logic, reason, these things have granted us a generally pain free life, and an average lifespan of almost eighty. Science and not faith is allowing us to tap the full human potential.

[DeterminedJuliet]

[Too Few Lions]

I don't think I'm the most qualified, I have gaps in my bibely knowledge, I can compensate by raising above and shunning those who force my floatyness.  Fnuck the razor wire crown, I will remain elegant, question me as you will.

You're definitely the most elegant and regal pudding I've ever encountered, if ever our queen needed a body double I would hope you'd get the call from Buckingham Palace.

I don't think you need that much biblical knowledge, you're 90% of the way there with just floatyness. If you can add to that some idiosyncratic definitions of words and unerring faith in your beliefs you'd be there. Plus maybe include the words 'Jesus' and 'God' in your posts a bit more for good measure.

[The Magic Pudding]

I don't think I'm the most qualified, I have gaps in my bibely knowledge, I can compensate by raising above and shunning those who force my floatyness.  Fnuck the razor wire crown, I will remain elegant, question me as you will.

You're definitely the most elegant and regal pudding I've ever encountered, if ever our queen needed a body double I would hope you'd get the call from Buckingham Palace.

I don't think you need that much biblical knowledge, you're 90% of the way there with just floatyness. If you can add to that some idiosyncratic definitions of words and unerring faith in your beliefs you'd be there. Plus maybe include the words 'Jesus' and 'God' in your posts a bit more for good measure.

Don't patronise me ineffectual chimp, reaching for weapons that aren't there.
You know, or you would know if only you could know the word of god.
You are wrong, open your ears and let Jesus sing the song of your wrongness to you.

[The Magic Pudding]

Evil songs flow so easily.