Afghan woman's choice: 12 years in jail or marry her rapist and risk death

Started by Tank, November 23, 2011, 08:36:44 AM

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iSok

Quote from: Recusant on December 02, 2011, 03:13:24 PM
Quote from: iSok on December 02, 2011, 12:51:10 PM. . .Sick stuff like this doesn't happen in Taliban controlled area's, people would not dare doing it.

So, reports of Taliban "justice" such as this are all lies, iSok?

No it's not a lie.
I would love to discuss this, but I know if I mingle in, it will cost a lot of time...



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fester30

I know this is an old thread, but suddenly relevant again.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/world_now/2012/03/morocco-suicide-women-rape.html

Just like Tank with that original post, I haven't calmed down since reading this.

Guardian85

That is the kind of thing that deserves deep seethed and righteous fury!


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fester30

One of the locals here in Arkansas pointed out to me that this is what happens when you let "those damn Muslims and their Sharia Law run things!"  I had to point him to Deuteronomy 22:28.

DeterminedJuliet

"We've thought of life by analogy with a journey, with pilgrimage which had a serious purpose at the end, and the THING was to get to that end; success, or whatever it is, or maybe heaven after you're dead. But, we missed the point the whole way along; It was a musical thing and you were supposed to sing, or dance, while the music was being played.

Ali

That's so heartbreaking.   :'(  I truly do not understand how some cultures can look at 1/2 of their population and not have feel any empathy or basic humanity towards them.

Isn't this exactly what AD was defending in the thread about rape?  "God knew that if we made them our wives they would be our equals."  Yes, forcing a woman you've raped to be your wife is the brilliant solution (and obviously makes women "equal" to men in the cultures that still do this.)   >:(

Harmonie

It's hard for me to put into words how exactly I feel about this. It is just flat out disgusting.

Quote from: fester30 on March 15, 2012, 11:47:37 PM
One of the locals here in Arkansas pointed out to me that this is what happens when you let "those damn Muslims and their Sharia Law run things!"  I had to point him to Deuteronomy 22:28.

They don't realize what all they're defending when they advocate "(Christian) traditional marriage", now do they?

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Sweetdeath

Quote from: Radiant on March 16, 2012, 04:09:56 PM
It's hard for me to put into words how exactly I feel about this. It is just flat out disgusting.

Quote from: fester30 on March 15, 2012, 11:47:37 PM
One of the locals here in Arkansas pointed out to me that this is what happens when you let "those damn Muslims and their Sharia Law run things!"  I had to point him to Deuteronomy 22:28.

They don't realize what all they're defending when they advocate "(Christian) traditional marriage", now do they?

When those religious nuts bring up "traditional marriage" and how the "gays are ruining it" I should point out that little passage as well. e__e
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Asmodean

Quote from: Sweetdeath on March 21, 2012, 05:07:45 AM
When those religious nuts bring up "traditional marriage" and how the "gays are ruining it"
It's bullshit, of course, but assuming the opposite for a second, The Asmo just can not understand why it would be so terrible..?
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Sweetdeath

Quote from: Asmodean on March 21, 2012, 05:17:27 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on March 21, 2012, 05:07:45 AM
When those religious nuts bring up "traditional marriage" and how the "gays are ruining it"
It's bullshit, of course, but assuming the opposite for a second, The Asmo just can not understand why it would be so terrible..?

What wouldnt be so terrible?

((sorry, a bit confused by question/what you mean.))
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Wiggum:"You have that much faith in me, Homer?"
Homer:"No! Faith is what you have in things that don't exist. Your awesomeness is real."

"I was thinking that perhaps this thing called God does not exist. Because He cannot save any one of us. No matter how we pray, He doesn't mend our wounds.

Asmodean

Quote from: Sweetdeath on March 21, 2012, 06:11:45 AM
What wouldnt be so terrible?
The following scenario: Gays are allowed the same rights as everyone else and the "institution of marriage" is ruined. Why is that the terribadest thing ever?
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

DeterminedJuliet

Quote from: Asmodean on March 21, 2012, 08:52:37 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on March 21, 2012, 06:11:45 AM
What wouldnt be so terrible?
The following scenario: Gays are allowed the same rights as everyone else and the "institution of marriage" is ruined. Why is that the terribadest thing ever?

Because a lot of social conservatives (mistakenly) think that the institute of marriage is what keeps the fabric of society together. Never mind the fact that "traditional" marriage really isn't that traditional and there are tons of other functional examples of societies that work with other family structures.

But, of course, they don't actually look at any social history/research. They just keep chanting that, if gay people marry and the "institution of marriage" falls apart, it's "social experimentation" and HORRIBLE things will happen ::)
"We've thought of life by analogy with a journey, with pilgrimage which had a serious purpose at the end, and the THING was to get to that end; success, or whatever it is, or maybe heaven after you're dead. But, we missed the point the whole way along; It was a musical thing and you were supposed to sing, or dance, while the music was being played.

Too Few Lions

Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on March 21, 2012, 01:28:25 PM
But, of course, they don't actually look at any social history/research. They just keep chanting that, if gay people marry and the "institution of marriage" falls apart, it's "social experimentation" and HORRIBLE things will happen ::)
I saw a conservative evangelical preacher on the BBC last weekend talking about gay marriage and reminding everyone about Sodom and Gomorrah. He seriously appeared to believe that Yahweh would rain fire and brimstone down on us and destroy the UK if we allow gay marriage!

DeterminedJuliet

Quote from: Too Few Lions on March 21, 2012, 02:53:48 PM
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on March 21, 2012, 01:28:25 PM
But, of course, they don't actually look at any social history/research. They just keep chanting that, if gay people marry and the "institution of marriage" falls apart, it's "social experimentation" and HORRIBLE things will happen ::)
I saw a conservative evangelical preacher on the BBC last weekend talking about gay marriage and reminding everyone about Sodom and Gomorrah. He seriously appeared to believe that Yahweh would rain fire and brimstone down on us and destroy the UK if we allow gay marriage!

Yes, because of all of the horrible, crazy shit humans have done to each other in the past several thousand years, THAT'S the one thing that will finally make God get involved in what we do.
"We've thought of life by analogy with a journey, with pilgrimage which had a serious purpose at the end, and the THING was to get to that end; success, or whatever it is, or maybe heaven after you're dead. But, we missed the point the whole way along; It was a musical thing and you were supposed to sing, or dance, while the music was being played.

Sweetdeath

Quote from: Asmodean on March 21, 2012, 08:52:37 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on March 21, 2012, 06:11:45 AM
What wouldnt be so terrible?
The following scenario: Gays are allowed the same rights as everyone else and the "institution of marriage" is ruined. Why is that the terribadest thing ever?
I honestly have no clue, but i'm guessing most people still stereotype and generalize homosexuals to be of another species. A sort of sub human race, except we don't have any cool x-men powers.

*shurgs sadly* No idea, Great Asmo. Perhaps if some people finally admit sexual preference has very little to do with who someone is as a whole, all the religious followers might lose it.
Just like.how gender is a society structure, because men and women arent so different.either.
I think marriage is dull, but everyone (human) should have their right to it.
Law 35- "You got to go with what works." - Robin Lefler

Wiggum:"You have that much faith in me, Homer?"
Homer:"No! Faith is what you have in things that don't exist. Your awesomeness is real."

"I was thinking that perhaps this thing called God does not exist. Because He cannot save any one of us. No matter how we pray, He doesn't mend our wounds.