Terrorist attack in Oslo

[Guardian85]

This is my general message to assholes like that Ludvig Nessa:

This case, it is not about YOU. It is about her

and him

and tens of others like them, who were killed in Oslo and at Utøya by someone claiming to serve his country and your god.

It's about those who loved them and cared about them, who now have to live with this loss. It's about those who survived, and the scars most of them will carry for the rest of their lives. It is about the strength, love and caring shown after the fact by the entire nation, and yes, it is about justice - not some bullshit divine kind, but our own system, the one that so far has shown that when it really matters, we can be proud of it.

Political extremism, perhaps mixed with a good dose of insanity, is what "released the forces that caused the terror", and in stead of being a dick about it and making a complete ass out of yourself, not to mention demeaning your already srewed up agenda, you should go do what any half-decent human being would: put your flower alongside the others and work to preserve those core ideals all those people lived, worked and died for.

I'm not registering at his stupid site just to be banneed in five seconds, nor am I sending him an e-mail just so he can trashcan it without reading. Let this here open letter stand as the testimony of my point of view to whomever finds it interesting.

Very well said.

[Asmodean]

It's just the truth.

You just don't fuck with something like that. Those people, they spin their bullshit, forgetting - or worse, disregarding - the fact that people were injured and killed. Real people, with real families, real friends and real lives. Real faces behind every number - many faces with many stories.

Why would the shitheads who would make mockery of their tragedy at least not familiarise themselves with as many as they could? Beause then they wouldn't have the heart to pour their shit all over the case, that's why. Or are they really so far gone that they would stand there and tell the mother of that girl on the picture that her daughter died because some woman made a decision about her body?!

[Asmodean]

Does he have a website on which The Asmo can insult him?  

http:#//#www.abort.no#/index.php

Go get'em, boy!





EDIT: Disabled link (take out the 3 # marks to use it) don't want to be giving this arsehole any Google search hits - Tank

Was done at my request which I would normally have made to Guardian directly if he were online. I sort of did ask for the link to be posted and felt it was my responsibility to see it disabled.

[Asmodean]

Court day 16.

Again, 12 autopsy reports were presented and yet more survivors are testifying.

I will post a compilation this evening.

If any one has questions regarding any aspect of this case, feel free to ask me and I will research for you.

[Tank]

Court day 16.

Again, 12 autopsy reports were presented and yet more survivors are testifying.

I will post a compilation this evening.

If any one has questions regarding any aspect of this case, feel free to ask me and I will research for you.

Nothing to ask at this point.

I would like to say how much I appreciate your commentary on this case as there is very little on it here in the UK at the moment.

[Asmodean]

I think all press inside the court right now is Norwegian, so all outside press can do is pretty much what I do - translate what the Norwegian journalists say to a different language.

I'm using most nationwide channels as control in my compilations in an attempt to avoid any one journalist's potential bias. The teams say pretty much exactly the same so far with some variation in level of detail. For instance, none but two teams forward the cause of death, and only one of them tells if death was instant or not.

The presentations of witness testimonies vary little, and usually only when a journalist can not keep up with the pace and has to re-tell a few sentences in his own words.

[Guardian85]

Does he have a website on which The Asmo can insult him?  

http:#//#www.abort.no#/index.php

Go get'em, boy!





EDIT: Disabled link (take out the 3 # marks to use it) don't want to be giving this arsehole any Google search hits - Tank

Was done at my request which I would normally have made to Guardian directly if he were online. I sort of did ask for the link to be posted and felt it was my responsibility to see it disabled.

Should have thought of that. I blame the weeks worth of night shifts. Running in zombie mode.

[Ali]

This is my general message to assholes like that Ludvig Nessa:

This case, it is not about YOU. It is about her

and him

and tens of others like them, who were killed in Oslo and at Utøya by someone claiming to serve his country and your god.

It's about those who loved them and cared about them, who now have to live with this loss. It's about those who survived, and the scars most of them will carry for the rest of their lives. It is about the strength, love and caring shown after the fact by the entire nation, and yes, it is about justice - not some bullshit divine kind, but our own system, the one that so far has shown that when it really matters, we can be proud of it.

Political extremism, perhaps mixed with a good dose of insanity, is what "released the forces that caused the terror", and in stead of being a dick about it and making a complete ass out of yourself, not to mention demeaning your already srewed up agenda, you should go do what any half-decent human being would: put your flower alongside the others and work to preserve those core ideals all those people lived, worked and died for.

I'm not registering at his stupid site just to be banneed in five seconds, nor am I sending him an e-mail just so he can trashcan it without reading. Let this here open letter stand as the testimony of my point of view to whomever finds it interesting.

*Standing ovation*  Brought tears to my eyes Asmo.  Very well said.  Thank you so much for keeping us updated on this. 

[Asmodean]

The witnesses who saw Breivik at Utøya are not allowed to hear each other's testimony until they have testified.

Today new witnesses told their stories about the events on the island, the atmosphere, the loss of friends and the road back to a normal life... Or as close as it gets.

In regard to autopsy reports, Breivik's MO is the same - most died of head injuries and most were shot several times. So far in this case, the reports have shown people shot between one and eight times, but most were hit by two and three shots.

Tomorrow, the court looks at the last autopsy reports and listens to more survivors, concluding what is probably the hardest court week for many involved.

Breivik himself appears not to be affeted, but he comments occasionally.

Breivik also came close to firing his team of lawyers beause they refused to direct his questions about AUF and their supposed indoctrination policies to a witness, which may indicate that some sparks may be flying between the accused and Lippestad & co.

My coverage of these last days of the week is going to be somewhat spotty due to a combination of a nasty kidney stone and general business, but I will also post a mile long compilation post about this court week in some days.

The media will be allowed to broadcast directly from court in two weeks' time, or so I understand. Until such time, I will update you to the best of my ability.

[Firebird]

Thanks for posting about this. And sucks about the kidney stone. I had one of those a few years back. I heard it was like being in labor without the advantages, and they weren't joking.

[Buddy]

I guess someone threw a shoe at him during the trial. It was only a matter of time before something like this happened. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18034156

[Asmodean]

Indeed. The person who threw the shoe is one of the victims' brother. Tensions have been building in this case for a long time now, so from what I read in the local media many were relieved to see this outburst.

The person who threw the shoe has been taken care of by health personnel. The shoe missed Breivik, but did hit one of the attorneys.

Today, as I mentioned before, the last autopsy reports of those who died at Utøya were presented. Two* did not die of gunshot wounds - one drowned in an attempt to escape the island (I will try to incorporate the interview with his best friend, who survived, in the compilation) and one fell down a steep slope. The cause of his death was indetermined.

Drowning... What a way to go!  

*I have yet to do a quality control on my data so the actual number of people who were not directly killed by Breivik may be higher. Shot or not, however, they did die by his hand.

[DeterminedJuliet]

Today, as I mentioned before, the last autopsy reports of those who died at Utøya were presented. Two did not die of gunshot wounds - one drowned in an attempt to escape the island (I will try to incorporate the interview with his best friend, who survived, in the compilation) and one fell down a steep slope. The cause of his death was indetermined.

Goes to show what a chaotic situation it must have been, I think.

[Asmodean]

Yes and no - the survivors' testimony illustrates the chaos, but there were many who tried to swim to safety and not much is known about the circumstanes surrounding the death of the kid who fell.

There were also many injured, but only one person* died after getting to a hospital. At one point during the trial, Breivik said that he tried to shoot for arms and legs when he did not have a clear line of sight nor the opportunity to reach those trying to hide easily enough. This was done to make them expose themselves for a kill shot.

*After quality control, the number may rise

[Asmodean]

Update: My compilation has been slightly delayed by a number of factors, like proper information quality control, a seriously ill friend and me still following the case closely as tens of witnesses tell their stories.

The Oslo-part is finished, but I have to edit it a bit to make it easier to read. The final part has grown into a text wall of China, so I think I may need to cut down on re-telling witness testimony. It's a shame, really, because every story deserves to be told just as much as every other, but one does have to prioritize, does one not..?

In any case, expect part two of the compilation published late this week.