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New amendment Proposed by Tea Party

Started by Sophus, December 20, 2010, 02:19:27 PM

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Sophus

This new Amendment being proposed by Republicans stinks of anti-federalism.

Quote from: "url=http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/20/us/politics/20states.html?_r=2&hp]NY Times[/url]"]
The same people driving the lawsuits that seek to dismantle the Obama administration’s health care overhaul have set their sights on an even bigger target: a constitutional amendment that would allow a vote of the states to overturn any act of Congress

The chances of this being successful are incredibly dismal. But if they pull of some sort of miracle I am getting the hell out of the South.
‎"Christian doesn't necessarily just mean good. It just means better." - John Oliver

Tank

I've just realised who the Tea Party remind me of in UK politics! The Monster Raving Loony Party (yes it really does exist).
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elliebean

Quote from: "Tank"I've just realised who the Tea Party remind me of in UK politics! The Monster Raving Loony Party (yes it really does exist).
It's more a hybrid of that and BNP.
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Sophus

I don't know. They just remind me of the old Anti-Federalists. Maybe the Dixies. I mean isn't this basically aiming for a Confederation?
‎"Christian doesn't necessarily just mean good. It just means better." - John Oliver

grim-reaper

This is just another examples of how Christians (=Tea Party people) think that they have the right to impose their beliefs on everyone else.

Voter

Quote from: "grim-reaper"This is just another examples of how Christians (=Tea Party people) think that they have the right to impose their beliefs on everyone else.
Actually it's just the opposite.
Quote from: "An anonymous atheist poster here"Your world view is your world view. If you keep it to yourself then I don't really care what it is. Trouble is you won't keep it to yourself and that's fine too. But if you won't keep your beliefs to yourself you have no right, no right whatsoever, not to have your world view bashed. You make your wo

Sophus

Quote from: "Voter"
Quote from: "grim-reaper"This is just another examples of how Christians (=Tea Party people) think that they have the right to impose their beliefs on everyone else.
Actually it's just the opposite.
Alone, it's not really either. But I can only imagine how they would impose their beliefs on others if it were to become a reality. They could strike out anything on separation of church and state, for example.
Of course, this is nothing really to worry about. It won't happen. But the motivation is a little surprising. Wonder when all this right-wing extremism will quell.
‎"Christian doesn't necessarily just mean good. It just means better." - John Oliver

Voter

IMO it's a big stretch to say that the power to stop others from imposing their will, is imposition of your own will, but I suppose you could rationalize it as such.
Quote from: "An anonymous atheist poster here"Your world view is your world view. If you keep it to yourself then I don't really care what it is. Trouble is you won't keep it to yourself and that's fine too. But if you won't keep your beliefs to yourself you have no right, no right whatsoever, not to have your world view bashed. You make your wo

Whitney

Quote from: "Voter"IMO it's a big stretch to say that the power to stop others from imposing their will, is imposition of your own will, but I suppose you could rationalize it as such.

The only way for everyone to have the most freedom possible is to restrict the free will of assholes who can't leave others alone.

Sophus

#9
Quote from: "Voter"IMO it's a big stretch to say that the power to stop others from imposing their will, is imposition of your own will, but I suppose you could rationalize it as such.
For example if Congress says you can't teach Creationism in schools Texas and the South can say "VOID" and teach kids I.D. If Congress says no public prayer in school they can say "VOID" and have prayer in school. If Congress passes an act that says employers can't discriminate in a particular way on religious grounds; "VOID" and poof.
‎"Christian doesn't necessarily just mean good. It just means better." - John Oliver

Voter

Quote from: "Sophus"For example if Congress says you can't teach Creationism in schools...
...that would be an example of Congress imposing its will on others.
QuoteTexas can say "VOID" and teach kids I.D.
No, 2/3 of the states can say "VOID." What's wrong with that? Did you read the article?
Quote from: "An anonymous atheist poster here"Your world view is your world view. If you keep it to yourself then I don't really care what it is. Trouble is you won't keep it to yourself and that's fine too. But if you won't keep your beliefs to yourself you have no right, no right whatsoever, not to have your world view bashed. You make your wo

Voter

Quote from: "Whitney"
Quote from: "Voter"IMO it's a big stretch to say that the power to stop others from imposing their will, is imposition of your own will, but I suppose you could rationalize it as such.

The only way for everyone to have the most freedom possible is to restrict the free will of assholes who can't leave others alone.
That seems to be the intent of this amendment.
Quote from: "An anonymous atheist poster here"Your world view is your world view. If you keep it to yourself then I don't really care what it is. Trouble is you won't keep it to yourself and that's fine too. But if you won't keep your beliefs to yourself you have no right, no right whatsoever, not to have your world view bashed. You make your wo

Whitney

Quote from: "Voter"
Quote from: "Whitney"
Quote from: "Voter"IMO it's a big stretch to say that the power to stop others from imposing their will, is imposition of your own will, but I suppose you could rationalize it as such.

The only way for everyone to have the most freedom possible is to restrict the free will of assholes who can't leave others alone.
That seems to be the intent of this amendment.

Considering that states already elect officials to send to congress how would this act increase representation?

Sophus

Quote from: "Voter"...that would be an example of Congress imposing its will on others.
It's merely governing. We send representatives to Washington who we think will represent us the best on federal issues. Sometimes those issues overlap with state level issues but this would ad a whole new dimension to voting on a state's level.

QuoteTexas can say "VOID" and teach kids I.D.
No, 2/3 of the states can say "VOID." What's wrong with that? Did you read the article?
Yes, not to mess with Texas but they would probably be one of the many voting to repeal something like that. Poor wording. I apologize; will edit it.
‎"Christian doesn't necessarily just mean good. It just means better." - John Oliver

Whitney

I don't want 2/3rds of the states to be able to decide to chunk out the constitution just because they are being cry babies over not being allowed to violate separation of church and state.  If they are really that upset over this country's foundation they can secede and good luck to them; I'll pack my bags and move to wherever is keeping freedom for all a top priority.