Why give "God" the credit...

[hismikeness]

I've always wondered how people can ignore the reverse - God should be given credit for people being stupid or getting screwed.

I have a very close friend that is VERY Christian. We used to work together, and he was telling me about something going on that really sucked, his car had lost it's timing belt and he didn't realize it and kept driving it in the middle of the summer. It overheated and basically fused the engine together.

I said "Man, those acts of God really stick it in and break it off don't they?" He's cool enough to laugh about that, but I wish I had the nads to tell that to so many people when they praise God for things someone else did/useless things/anything/everything.

[tymygy]

I hate how the religious can be so fucking terrible to a person.

Breaking down ones character because their gay. Fuck anyone who treats another human like that.

Everything you've ever accomplished was due to your own ability, not because god let it happen. When a football player thanks god for letting him have a good game, he gives little to no gratitude to his thousands of hours of practice and training.

So what? God helps his score a T.D. but doesn't feed the millions of children in africa?

Oh Boy, thats a god I want to worship!  :hail:

[GAYtheist]

I hate how the religious can be so fucking terrible to a person.

Breaking down ones character because their gay. Fuck anyone who treats another human like that.

Everything you've ever accomplished was due to your own ability, not because god let it happen. When a football player thanks god for letting him have a good game, he gives little to no gratitude to his thousands of hours of practice and training.

So what? God helps his score a T.D. but doesn't feed the millions of children in africa?

Oh Boy, thats a god I want to worship!  :hail:

Next time I post something like this topic, I'm using this as a reference. As a NFL fan, this is something I hate to see. I want to see ONE FUCKING PLAYER say "Yea, God had nothing to do with this, I worked my ass off everyday this week, and it paid off." Too much to ask?

[tymygy]

I hate how the religious can be so fucking terrible to a person.

Breaking down ones character because their gay. Fuck anyone who treats another human like that.

Everything you've ever accomplished was due to your own ability, not because god let it happen. When a football player thanks god for letting him have a good game, he gives little to no gratitude to his thousands of hours of practice and training.

So what? God helps his score a T.D. but doesn't feed the millions of children in africa?

Oh Boy, thats a god I want to worship!  :hail:

Next time I post something like this topic, I'm using this as a reference. As a NFL fan, this is something I hate to see. I want to see ONE FUCKING PLAYER say "Yea, God had nothing to do with this, I worked my ass off everyday this week, and it paid off." Too much to ask?

 

[TheWilliam]

They'd loose fans faster than you can say Gabourey Sidibe is overrated.

[Sophus]

I hate how the religious can be so fucking terrible to a person.

Breaking down ones character because their gay. Fuck anyone who treats another human like that.

Everything you've ever accomplished was due to your own ability, not because god let it happen. When a football player thanks god for letting him have a good game, he gives little to no gratitude to his thousands of hours of practice and training.

So what? God helps his score a T.D. but doesn't feed the millions of children in africa?

Oh Boy, thats a god I want to worship!  :hail:

Next time I post something like this topic, I'm using this as a reference. As a NFL fan, this is something I hate to see. I want to see ONE FUCKING PLAYER say "Yea, God had nothing to do with this, I worked my ass off everyday this week, and it paid off." Too much to ask?

Doubt it will happen anytime soon. How many atheist football players are there? I don't see a lot of them in sports.

[tymygy]

I hate how the religious can be so fucking terrible to a person.

Breaking down ones character because their gay. Fuck anyone who treats another human like that.

Everything you've ever accomplished was due to your own ability, not because god let it happen. When a football player thanks god for letting him have a good game, he gives little to no gratitude to his thousands of hours of practice and training.

So what? God helps his score a T.D. but doesn't feed the millions of children in africa?

Oh Boy, thats a god I want to worship!  :hail:

Next time I post something like this topic, I'm using this as a reference. As a NFL fan, this is something I hate to see. I want to see ONE FUCKING PLAYER say "Yea, God had nothing to do with this, I worked my ass off everyday this week, and it paid off." Too much to ask?

Doubt it will happen anytime soon. How many atheist football players are there? I don't see a lot of them in sports.

Agreed, I can't think of one.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Pat Tillman, but he was killed in Afghanistan.  Dumb atheist, he turned down a lucrative contract in order to serve his country.

[DropLogic]

Pat Tillman, but he was killed in Afghanistan.  Dumb atheist, he turned down a lucrative contract in order to serve his country.

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This is old and has probably been discussed in the past.  It's incredible how fixated the media was on the fact that he MIGHT be an atheist...as if that made him less of a patriot.

[jduster]

Religious advocates like to cherrypick.

When good happens, it is the doing of God.
When good does not happen, it isn't God's fault.

[Achronos]

Most of the Christians I know think atheists are arrogant for not giving God credit for anything. I think it's disrespectful of them to give God credit for everything. Like when the last Chile miner was rescued today someone said "Praise God!" What about the people who worked their ass off to save them? At the dinner table: "Thank you for this meal, Lord." What about the person who cooked and prepared it? And if you ever have an impressive skill they say, "you have a God given gift." No actually, I worked really hard for years and years to be able to do what I do. But thanks for the "compliment".

In my view, thanking the Lord for a meal entails those that did work to prepare it for myself (and others if present). As you have mentioned it is more than just thanking the substance that lays before us. It could also present itself with gratitude and humility.; the fact that I have something to consume.

Also praising God for the rescue of the Chilean miners could imply all the efforts involved. Now whether their rescue was 'divinely' directed is another matter.

What's interesting to me, however, is if those miners were not saved. Are we still to praise God then?

[Kylyssa]

In my view, thanking the Lord for a meal entails those that did work to prepare it for myself (and others if present). As you have mentioned it is more than just thanking the substance that lays before us. It could also present itself with gratitude and humility.; the fact that I have something to consume.

Also praising God for the rescue of the Chilean miners could imply all the efforts involved. Now whether their rescue was 'divinely' directed is another matter.

What's interesting to me, however, is if those miners were not saved. Are we still to praise God then?

May I ask for clarification?  Are you saying that you thank the people present first, such as the hostess or whoever prepared the food and then thank God or are you saying that thanking God is something you do to stand in place of thanking the people who provided and served the meal?

I guess what I'm asking is, do you thank God for things instead of thanking the people responsible or in addition to thanking the people responsible aloud?

[Achronos]

I always express my gratitude towards the hostess and I thank God for providing not only the food, but the people who have prepared it. For me I find it very important to show how appreciative you are, but more importantly that also means being sincere about it.

[GAYtheist]

Achronos,

My problem with what you're saying is this.  "God" has no substance. You can't see him, touch him, hear him, taste him or smell him. You can feel the wind against your skin, smell the scent of a flower, taste the salt of a sea breeze...those are things we know exist. But instead of of saying something like "Those doctors are amazing, look at how long they worked to save my son's life!" People will say "Thank God  for saving my son's life." Or, as I stated previously from personal, and painful, experience, I have been told too many times that God would not give me something in my life that I could not handle. I hope, sincerely hope, that you have never been sexually assaulted, but being a survivor myself, I can tell you that the only reason I am here is that I had the strength in me. I have had it since forever, and no magic man in the sky did that for me. The free will argument is rediculous. Relgion never forces the "creator" to take responsibility for what has happened in the world, and if he does exist, and I go to be judged, I'll tell your god to take a long walk off a short peer and fuck himself raw.

[trexshinigami]

The free will argument is rediculous. Relgion never forces the "creator" to take responsibility for what has happened in the world, and if he does exist, and I go to be judged, I'll tell your god to take a long walk off a short peer and fuck himself raw.

I agree, 'god' really has it good.  He gets thanked every time something good happens and worshipped when ever something bad happens.  People pray, and even when their prayers don't get answered they say 'god has a plan'.  

And the whole free will concept is BS anyway.  We are given a choice but if we choose wrong we go burn in hell for eternity.... srsly???  That's sick.  If that was someone on earth doing that to people they would be called a sociopath.  So if god exists he must really enjoy watching people suffer.

Id be right there next to Gaytheist telling god to go do unholy things to himself