The "Friend Zone"

[KebertX]

Having followed this stroke from its inception, I whole-heartedly endorse the above descriptions of this thread.

Oh, that just gave me an even better idea! Hire a team of extractors to preform Inception on her!

[Thumpalumpacus]

I personally can't wait until another girl puts me in the friend zone now.

You need not; practice makes perfect.

[Explorer]

Did it ever occur to you that maybe by saying how much she appreciates your company and how good a friend you are, she's trying to drop hints that you should make a move?

Girls can be shy too.  Maybe she's aware that you're in the friend zone too and going through exactly the same thing?

Next time you see her, turn the conversation to ideal mates.  If she uses terms that could be applied to you (either seriously, or jokingly), call her on it:  "Movie star good looks... like me, and snappy dress sense, well that's me too, and the hair... are you flirting with me?" If she doesn't shoot you down flat, run with it.  Note here that denial is not the same as being shot down flat.  If she hesitates, giggles or blushes, you may still have a shot!  Poking and tickling are time-honoured techniques here, so make sure you stay within arms' reach.  Keep it light at least to start with, don't be creepy, and make sure she knows that you value her friendship above all and you should be able to walk away a winner even if she shoots you down.  And of course even if she says no on the day, the idea might grow on her.

That said, it's easier said than done.  The fact that you'll be charged with adrenaline and other hormones the moment you even think about making a move won't help.  Forewarned is forearmed.

Good luck.

Oh, and if you walk in on her having a fap... that's probably a good sign.

[Godless]

Did it ever occur to you that maybe by saying how much she appreciates your company and how good a friend you are, she's trying to drop hints that you should make a move?

Girls can be shy too.  Maybe she's aware that you're in the friend zone too and going through exactly the same thing?

Next time you see her, turn the conversation to ideal mates.  If she uses terms that could be applied to you (either seriously, or jokingly), call her on it:  "Movie star good looks... like me, and snappy dress sense, well that's me too, and the hair... are you flirting with me?" If she doesn't shoot you down flat, run with it.  Note here that denial is not the same as being shot down flat.  If she hesitates, giggles or blushes, you may still have a shot!  Poking and tickling are time-honoured techniques here, so make sure you stay within arms' reach.  Keep it light at least to start with, don't be creepy, and make sure she knows that you value her friendship above all and you should be able to walk away a winner even if she shoots you down.  And of course even if she says no on the day, the idea might grow on her.

That said, it's easier said than done.  The fact that you'll be charged with adrenaline and other hormones the moment you even think about making a move won't help.  Forewarned is forearmed.

Good luck.

Oh, and if you walk in on her having a fap... that's probably a good sign.

Well walking in on each other fapping isn't really possible because we never go to each others' houses since we always go "out" to hangout. I don't really think I'm that great at reading girls so even if she is dropping some hints I don't seem to be picking them up. However, she did tell me that she likes white guys (we're both Asian) so I dunno if I should even try because of that. I went to a party with her this past summer and she was talking to this white guy and when he walked away she was like "he's so cute!"

[TheChainSmoker]

I personally can't wait until another girl puts me in the friend zone now.

You need not; practice makes perfect.

So get this crap luck!
I attempted to befriend this one chick so I could go on with this plan.. And you know what? Now she's started to "like" me and wants to "hang out".. Stupid rotten luck.. The one time I actually want to be put into the friend zone, the girl decides she wants to just do it instead of making it over-complicated..*

* I understand, I shouldn't be complaining.. But you know.. I was really looking forward to the friend zone this time..

[TheJackel]

The best way to do this is to Test the water to see if it's Hot or Cold. Basically, there is this little innocent but very guilty trick I've used before. Play with her, or as in play wrestle or make playful contact that you can get away with as friend play. It's flirtatious and if she's interested she will definitely flirt with you. See how she responds when you look her in the eyes. She may even start to peruse you and become more flirtatious.

Another thing you can do when talking to her is to make more contact, like touching her arm or hand gently every once in a while during the conversation. If she starts touching back, and doing things like playing with her hair, or even laughing at your dumbest jokes. It's a good sign you are on your way out of the "Friend Zone"..

However, if she continues to treat you like her brother, or doesn't respond to your subtle hints, you can always back off and pretend you were never interested. You don't even have to say anything to her on the subject.  .

[TheChainSmoker]

The best way to do this is to Test the water to see if it's Hot or Cold. Basically, there is this little innocent but very guilty trick I've used before. Play with her, or as in play wrestle or make playful contact that you can get away with as friend play. It's flirtatious and if she's interested she will definitely flirt with you. See how she responds when you look her in the eyes. She may even start to peruse you and become more flirtatious.

Another thing you can do when talking to her is to make more contact, like touching her arm or hand gently every once in a while during the conversation. If she starts touching back, and doing things like playing with her hair, or even laughing at your dumbest jokes. It's a good sign you are on your way out of the "Friend Zone"..

Yeah, why just have her walk in on you having fun when you could do all this?

[TheJackel]

The best way to do this is to Test the water to see if it's Hot or Cold. Basically, there is this little innocent but very guilty trick I've used before. Play with her, or as in play wrestle or make playful contact that you can get away with as friend play. It's flirtatious and if she's interested she will definitely flirt with you. See how she responds when you look her in the eyes. She may even start to peruse you and become more flirtatious.

Another thing you can do when talking to her is to make more contact, like touching her arm or hand gently every once in a while during the conversation. If she starts touching back, and doing things like playing with her hair, or even laughing at your dumbest jokes. It's a good sign you are on your way out of the "Friend Zone"..

Yeah, why just have her walk in on you having fun when you could do all this?

Because the latter is more likely to become a joke of disinterest. Or just sexual without interest in a relationship. It's actually a pretty bad way to begin a relationship on sexual grounds alone. It's never worked for me because the focus of relationship always strayed away from what I wanted. He's better off trying to get her to pursue  him to find out if she's into him relationship wise. So he should avoid getting put into the "Fuck Buddy Zone" (even thought that would be fun for a while).