Question to Atheists: Why do you help people in need?

[JillSwift]

You've already been given an answer to this by Tank, but since you missed that one I hope you don't mind me answering you briefly.
I founded the Fundaninathi program in Grahamstown, South Africa, operating in the Joza township providing schools with resources and equipment. C.M Vellem was the first school we were able to impact. It is a charity organisation and run by me: an atheist.
I was also the human rights education coordinator for Amnesty International, the treasurer for Give5 which fundraises for student bursaries, a narrator at the Grahamstown library for the blind, a volunteer tutor at township schools etc etc. Now stop your generalising and go read the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which I'm sure you'll quickly find is contradicted by your Bible at several articles. Re-evaluate what you base your own morality on before calling the morality of others into question.

Bloody well done!  

Too true. Well done indeed, kelltrill.

[Gawen]

Well, pj...we do it because it helps and makes us feel good. We don't do it because we're afraid of going to hell and the promise of some other sort of idyllic afterlife.

[Tank]

I do it because I can empathise with others, put myself in their shoes as it were, and realise I wouldn't want to be where they are. So I do what I can to change the situation. In one sense I don't care why the help gets given just that it does. What I do object to is when preaching and prozletising goes along with the help. A few years ago my Mum proudly told me she had helped raise £500 to help the Chinese, I asked her what the money would be used for 'Buying Bibles' was her response. That was the nearest I ever got to bawling her out  

[McQ]

PJ, your post is one of the least informed, most ridiculous things I've read in years. Your questions have already been answered so I won't bother continuing to name secular aid organizations for you. I do wonder though if you are aware that there is no country called the Soviet Union. You may have heard something about it's demise in the news. You know, back in the 1990s.

[AntiAtheist]

Thank you brother and God bless you for posting this.

Atheist live a shallow and disgusting life, yet just like you perfectly nailed it, they are bluntly hypocrites. They only strive to find happiness by being as ruthless and wicked and sinful as they can, then claim they are good people while actual their only goal in life is to cause harm to good God fearing people are law abiding citizens.

It never fails that, no matter how condescending or snarky the atheists are, it's always the Christians that are going to be bashed when they answer a bunch of lies told about Christianity. It's actually becoming a religion to not have religion. Atheist's true motive is NOT to have an intelligent converstation but to be a troll and try to nit-pick and twist everything to suit his/her agenda and label Christians as troll for sharing our faith.

As for why there are no atheist charities, maybe the atheists are to busy attacking and insulting Christians and writing hatful books I guess? Or maybe it is just like as you said, they are too busy setting up dictatorships and killing innocent people.

By posting what you have takes alot of courage and guts and I prey that God will protect you from harm. There is no telling what these atheists will do to putdown outspoken Christians. These traitors and foreigners seem to want a voice, then stop everyone elses voice. Then scream about wanting equality and freedom.

These filthy vermin.

I hope you don't mind, but I would really like to use your article to spread around and share it in my church.

God bless you and stay safe!

[Tank]

Thank you brother and God bless you for posting this.

Atheist live a shallow and disgusting life, yet just like you perfectly nailed it, they are bluntly hypocrites. They only strive to find happiness by being as ruthless and wicked and sinful as they can, then claim they are good people while actual their only goal in life is to cause harm to good God fearing people are law abiding citizens.

It never fails that, no matter how condescending or snarky the atheists are, it's always the Christians that are going to be bashed when they answer a bunch of lies told about Christianity. It's actually becoming a religion to not have religion. Atheist's true motive is NOT to have an intelligent converstation but to be a troll and try to nit-pick and twist everything to suit his/her agenda and label Christians as troll for sharing our faith.

As for why there are no atheist charities, maybe the atheists are to busy attacking and insulting Christians and writing hatful books I guess? Or maybe it is just like as you said, they are too busy setting up dictatorships and killing innocent people.

By posting what you have takes alot of courage and guts and I prey that God will protect you from harm. There is no telling what these atheists will do to putdown outspoken Christians. These traitors and foreigners seem to want a voice, then stop everyone elses voice. Then scream about wanting equality and freedom.

These filthy vermin.

I hope you don't mind, but I would really like to use your article to spread around and share it in my church.

God bless you and stay safe!

What a wonderful example of a theist you are. Filled with ignorance and hate for what you don't understand.

Thank you for such wonderful material to expose the stupidity of some (fortunately the minority) of people who have 'faith'.

[Whitney]

Can you even name ONE atheist run charity organization? No? I thought so.

Atheists helping the homeless (Austin, Texas)
Fellowship of Freethought homeless outreach, lake cleanup, adopt a highway etc (Dallas, Texas)
Red Cross (secular)

[strike:l6u6gpec]Now, tell me why I shouldn't ban you for being an uncivil ass?[/strike:l6u6gpec]  AntiAtheist is a sockpuppet to pj's ...both are now banned.

[Gawen]

Thank you brother and God bless you for posting this.

Atheist live a shallow and disgusting life,

A matter of perception, I reckon. I think it's shallow immoral and disgusting to live a life based on fear of going to hell.

yet just like you perfectly nailed it, they are bluntly hypocrites.

Jesus says:
•   Abandon all your Earthly ambitions.
•   Forsake your Earthly family and give your loyalty to God and your fellow believers.  
•   Sell everything you own and use the money to do good works.  
•   Avoid receiving any Earthly reward for your good works.  
•   Follow the Mosaic Law, both the letter and the spirit of it.  
•   Abstain from all sin, inside and out;
•   Abstain from covetousness
•   Abstain from anger
•   Abstain from lust.
•   Abstain from adultery.  
•   Do WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO to abstain from lust.  
•   Practice strict nonviolent pacifism.
•   Do not resist evil.
•   Do not strike back.
•   Do good to those who hate you.  
•   Practice mercy and forgiveness and peacemaking.
•   Do not judge others; Judgment Day will come soon enough.  
•   Seek to purify your own character, strive to "be perfect, even as your father in Heaven is perfect."
•   Over-fulfill the Law seeking to follow the spirit of it as well as the letter.
•   Kill those that do not believe.
•   Abstain from swearing false oaths.

I know of no Christian that can and will do all of these things. Who is a hypocrite?
 

They only strive to find happiness by being as ruthless and wicked and sinful as they can,

Have you read the Old Testament lately? Have you not read the history of the Crusades? The entire Christian mindset is built upon wickedness and suffering.

then claim they are good people while actual their only goal in life is to cause harm to good God fearing people are law abiding citizens.

So atheists are not law abiding? Atheists are not good? Why is it that there are more Chritians in prisons and jails than there are athiests?
The Federal Bureau of Prisons does have statistics on religious
affiliations of inmates.  The following are total number of
inmates per religion category (circa 1997):

Response              Number      %
----------------------------  --------
Catholic               29267   39.164%
Protestant           26162   35.008%
Muslim                 5435    7.273%
American Indian    2408    3.222%
Nation                  1734    2.320%
Rasta                   1485    1.987%
Jewish                  1325    1.773%
Church of Christ    1303    1.744%
Pentecostal          1093    1.463%
Moorish                 1066    1.426%
Buddhist                 882    1.180%
Jehovah Witness     665    0.890%
Adventist               621    0.831%
Orthodox               375    0.502%
Mormon                 298    0.399%
Scientology            190    0.254%
Atheist                  156    0.209%
Hindu                    119    0.159%
Santeria                 117    0.157%
Sikh                      14    0.019%
Bahai                      9    0.012%
Krishna                   7    0.009%
----------------------------  --------
Total Known Responses  74731  100.001% (rounding to 3 digits does this)

It never fails that, no matter how condescending or snarky the atheists are, it's always the Christians that are going to be bashed when they answer a bunch of lies told about Christianity.

Well, you are right about one thing...Christianity is full of lies.

It's actually becoming a religion to not have religion.

Apparently, Christians don't know the definition of 'religion'.

Atheist's true motive is NOT to have an intelligent converstation but to be a troll and try to nit-pick and twist everything to suit his/her agenda and label Christians as troll for sharing our faith.

Funny how you're here butting into OUR intelligent conversation.

As for why there are no atheist charities,

You may want to scroll up and see all the charities that's been listed. But I doubt you will.

maybe the atheists are to busy attacking and insulting Christians

I see that when you attack and insult atheists, it isn't the same.

and writing hatful books I guess?

I'm not quite understanding this. Hatful?

Or maybe it is just like as you said, they are too busy setting up dictatorships and killing innocent people.

Jim Jones ring a bell?

By posting what you have takes alot of courage and guts

No it doesn't. It's quite simple really. All are welcome.

and I prey that God will protect you from harm.

There's a bunch of Kentucky miners that do the same thing. Too bad God doesn't always hear their prayers.

There is no telling what these atheists will do to putdown outspoken Christians.

You can be as outspoken as you wish. Dropping the insults and arrogance would certainly help. So would trying to legislate your religious views.

These traitors

As far as I know, not believing in a god is not a traitorous offence in the United States. It is in Iran, though.

and foreigners seem to want a voice,

You seem to conveniently forget that this country was founded by foreigners, displacing the indigenous people.

then stop everyone elses voice.

So did many of the early American Puritans.

Then scream about wanting equality and freedom.

What does this have to do with god?

These filthy vermin.

Not unlike the Christian plague?

I hope you don't mind, but I would really like to use your article to spread around and share it in my church.

I don't mind. I have lots of articles.

God bless you and stay safe!

May the force and the volcano god Vulcanus do the same for you.

[Gawen]

AntiAtheist is a sockpuppet to pj's ...both are now banned.[/color]

Well....poooh. All that trouble for nothing...

[Tank]

Excellent deconstruction and response Gawen.  

[kelltrill]

Well....poooh. All that trouble for nothing...

Hardly. That was a very entertaining read ^_^

[Tank]

AntiAtheist is a sockpuppet to pj's ...both are now banned.

And good riddance!

[Tank]

Well....poooh. All that trouble for nothing...

Hardly. That was a very entertaining read ^_^[/quote]
Hear, hear! It wasn't a wasted effort, lots of good points in there.

[McQ]

AntiAtheist is a sockpuppet to pj's ...both are now banned.

And good riddance!

Ah, yes, nothing like good christian values demonstrated for all to see! Good catch, Whitney. I hadn't even looked to see if that was what was going on.

[Dretlin]

Well....poooh. All that trouble for nothing...

Hardly. That was a very entertaining read ^_^

Hear, hear! It wasn't a wasted effort, lots of good points in there.[/quote]

I agree with Tank. Still a great read!