Proof of God vs. Odin?

[Asmodean]

From McQ: This topic has been split off from the original thread. Feel free to continue the discussion of proving god here. These are the posts that lead up to the split.

You can not prove Odin but I can prove God  

Scientific method refers to bodies of techniques for investigating phenomena, acquiring new knowledge, or correcting and integrating previous knowledge. To be termed scientific, a method of inquiry must be based on gathering observable, empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning. A scientific method consists of the collection of data through observation and experimentation, and the formulation and testing of hypotheses.

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Evidence is information, such as facts, coupled with principles of inference (the act or process of deriving a conclusion), that make information relevant to the support or disproof of a hypothesis. Scientific evidence is evidence where the dependence of the evidence on principles of inference is not conceded, enabling others to examine the background beliefs or assumptions employed to determine if facts are relevant to the support of or falsification of a hypothesis

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Please do. And try to come up with something at least resembling a scientific theory. not a hypothesis, since you claim to be able to prove your god.

[curiosityandthecat]

[Will]

â,¬5 says I can prove Odin meeting the same burden of proof that a religious person might require to prove the Judeo-Christian god.

[Sophus]

Oh, me! Pick me! I can prove the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

The thing is Messenger you can't prove any god. Nor can you technically disprove anything with complete certainty.

[Messenger]

Oh, me! Pick me! I can prove the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

The thing is Messenger you can't prove any god. Nor can you technically disprove anything with complete certainty.

Wait and see, I'll not only prove God, I'll also disprove any other God
Only based on 2 facts/Axioms
1-X=X   X<> Not(X)
2-Every effect needs a cause

[bowmore]

Oh, me! Pick me! I can prove the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

The thing is Messenger you can't prove any god. Nor can you technically disprove anything with complete certainty.

Wait and see, I'll not only prove God, I'll also disprove any other God
Only based on 2 facts/Axioms
1-X=X   X<> Not(X)
2-Every effect needs a cause

...

mmm, seems the actual proof is missing.

Did you submit your post too quickly?

[Kyuuketsuki]

Wait and see, I'll not only prove God, I'll also disprove any other God
Only based on 2 facts/Axioms
1-X=X   X<> Not(X)
2-Every effect needs a cause

Or you can spew bollox ... but then I see you already have.

Kyu

[Messenger]

mmm, seems the actual proof is missing.

Did you submit your post too quickly?

I'm still fabricating it for you  

[bowmore]

mmm, seems the actual proof is missing.

Did you submit your post too quickly?

I'm still fabricating it for you  

Why don't you finish fabricating it, and then post it.

[Messenger]

mmm, seems the actual proof is missing.

Did you submit your post too quickly?

I'm still fabricating it for you  

Why don't you finish fabricating it, and then post it.

Today or tomorrow

[Kyuuketsuki]

Why don't you finish fabricating it, and then post it.

Today or tomorrow

My money's on it being as laughable as your previous drivel ... anyone care to to take a bet?

Still ... there's always a first time  

Kyu

[Asmodean]

Again, please read the quotes in my OP so that you know what kind of evidence is acceptable and how you should proceed with your proof.

Saying that every event has a cause is so much wasted breath by itself and I can not see how you could manage ANY sort of proof of deity out of that.

X=X X<> Not(X) This is either mathematical nonsense, stating that if something equals itself then it is either less or greater than something else (x=apple(s), y=elefant dung, is then x<y?), or it can be something else in which case I doubt that expression makes any more sense.

[curiosityandthecat]

Wait and see, I'll not only prove God, I'll also disprove any other God
Only based on 2 facts/Axioms
1-X=X   X<> Not(X)
2-Every effect needs a cause

This will be (and I don't know why I'm even bothering; it's a waste of time) nothing more than a convoluted, poorly-constructed Kalam cosmological argument, which has been torn apart a thousand different ways. First cause /= creator. Sorry.

SRSLY.  

[Sophus]

1-X=X   X<> Not(X)

Are you trying to refer to Aristotle's Law of Non-Contradiction? I hope not.  

Anyways, that's a theory I use often to disprove god.

2-Every effect needs a cause

We both can agree with this statement to the same degree. But neither theist nor atheist can apply this when tracing back the origins of the universe. We just disagree on what the cause is.

[SSY]

1-X=X   X<> Not(X)

Can some one explain this to me?

negative x is equal to x, implying that x is zero?

x is less than, greather than? what?

Not(x)? is Not a function? Is there some kind of notation I am missing here?