Executive Powers

[Old Seer]

British royals are strong believers in UFO's.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4493887/prince-philips-uncle-lord-mountbatten-was-ufo-enthusiast-and-even-documented-alien-spaceship-landing-on-his-estate/

Prince Charles, now King Charles III even piloted one.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/king-charles-flew-prototype-ufo-33859061

Obviously transport fit for a king.
Think of it next time you are stuck in traffic.

Bastards, access to alien technology and they still whinge and whine, even after  rejecting the land of their birth mind you, then they're asking you for free government security thugs.  It wouldn't be like this if you accepted Trump as your savior, just yield yourselves and he will make your lives the best lives ever.  Don't dither though, although a being of infinite patience, he has other priorities. 

The civilization change-over taking place was planned decades ago, a result being the formation of then WEF whose global plan is what's causing the up upheaval. Their plans cannot be successful without the forced participation of the US. The democratic party in the US is the representation of the WEF/globalist in the US.

I know it,ll be hard to understand, but the kickoff to start the game was 911 in NY. The object was to use it for the excuse to destroy much of the middle east to create endless numbers of illegal immigrants. The migrants are the WEF's army of occupation to replace the causation populations as they would be the greatest threat toward the plan.  That's what's going on in the UK at this time. Muslims will replace the Brits and in it's due time the Muslims will be removed---done away with. And that's why there is such great hatred of Trump and the US constitution likewise. Follow back a logical progression from now to 911 and you'll see it.

[Recusant]

The civilization change-over taking place was planned decades ago, a result being the formation of then WEF whose global plan is what's causing the up upheaval. Their plans cannot be successful without the forced participation of the US. The democratic party in the US is the representation of the WEF/globalist in the US.

I know it,ll be hard to understand, but the kickoff to start the game was 911 in NY. The object was to use it for the excuse to destroy much of the middle east to create endless numbers of illegal immigrants. The migrants are the WEF's army of occupation to replace the causation populations as they would be the greatest threat toward the plan.  That's what's going on in the UK at this time. Muslims will replace the Brits and in it's due time the Muslims will be removed---done away with. And that's why there is such great hatred of Trump and the US constitution likewise. Follow back a logical progression from now to 911 and you'll see it.

Utter hogwash. Trump is regularly violating the US Constitution and judges (even those he appointed) who know the law and understand the Constitution have been ruling against his regime of motivated morons.

The "Great Replacement" AKA "We Need More White Power to Counteract the Swarthy Masses" speaks for itself as an overtly racist conspiracy theory. Congratulations on outing yourself.

[Old Seer]

Trump is merely returning the US back to Americanism.

The civilization change-over taking place was planned decades ago, a result being the formation of then WEF whose global plan is what's causing the up upheaval. Their plans cannot be successful without the forced participation of the US. The democratic party in the US is the representation of the WEF/globalist in the US.

I know it,ll be hard to understand, but the kickoff to start the game was 911 in NY. The object was to use it for the excuse to destroy much of the middle east to create endless numbers of illegal immigrants. The migrants are the WEF's army of occupation to replace the causation populations as they would be the greatest threat toward the plan.  That's what's going on in the UK at this time. Muslims will replace the Brits and in it's due time the Muslims will be removed---done away with. And that's why there is such great hatred of Trump and the US constitution likewise. Follow back a logical progression from now to 911 and you'll see it.

Utter hogwash. Trump is regularly violating the US Constitution and judges (even those he appointed) who know the law and understand the Constitution have been ruling against his regime of motivated morons.

The "Great Replacement" AKA "We Need More White Power to Counteract the Swarthy Masses" speaks for itself as an overtly racist conspiracy theory. Congratulations on outing yourself.

He isn't going against the constitution. If so, there's plenty conservatives to call him out on it. 

[Old Seer]

Please explain, when has Donald Trump exceeded his constitutional authority as acting executive, what was it about, and how do you know. 

[billy rubin]

lord mountbatten had it coming.

[Old Seer]

The civilization change-over taking place was planned decades ago, a result being the formation of then WEF whose global plan is what's causing the up upheaval. Their plans cannot be successful without the forced participation of the US. The democratic party in the US is the representation of the WEF/globalist in the US.

I know it,ll be hard to understand, but the kickoff to start the game was 911 in NY. The object was to use it for the excuse to destroy much of the middle east to create endless numbers of illegal immigrants. The migrants are the WEF's army of occupation to replace the causation populations as they would be the greatest threat toward the plan.  That's what's going on in the UK at this time. Muslims will replace the Brits and in it's due time the Muslims will be removed---done away with. And that's why there is such great hatred of Trump and the US constitution likewise. Follow back a logical progression from now to 911 and you'll see it.

Utter hogwash. Trump is regularly violating the US Constitution and judges (even those he appointed) who know the law and understand the Constitution have been ruling against his regime of motivated morons.

The "Great Replacement" AKA "We Need More White Power to Counteract the Swarthy Masses" speaks for itself as an overtly racist conspiracy theory. Congratulations on outing yourself.

I provided a topic in Politics for those who want to use. Please explain there. We went off topic here.

[Recusant]

He isn't going against the constitution. If so, there's plenty conservatives to call him out on it. 

Your assertion versus for instance the plain language of Article 1 of the 14th Amendment. Unequivocally, Article 1 secures the constitutional principle of birth right citizenship. Trump attempted to revoke Article 1, amending the US Constitution by fiat via executive order. The act of a tyrant.

More recently a US district court judge ruled that Trump violated the 1st, 5th, and 6th amendments to the US Constitution. Your assertion to the contrary is of negligible value when contradicted by a duly appointed sitting federal judge.

[Icarus]

He has done so many crackpot things that it is difficult to determine whether he has violated the constitution. Some of the better legal minds have said that, Yes he has done so. Whether or not that matters is another subject to argue. He has made it clear that he does not give a rats ass about the constitution or other laws, since he has ignored numerous judicial decisions that were counter to his own.

He has been appropriately accused of having "pinball mentality". 

[Recusant]

When asked whether he needs to uphold the US Constitution, which he's now sworn twice to preserve, protect, and defend, the man says he doesn't know and will have to check with his lawyers before answering. 

Of course that's to the "best of his ability." It doesn't speak well for his regard for the duties and responsibilities of his office if he's unable to even verbally affirm that he personally acknowledges those duties and responsibilities without checking with "his lawyers" first. It appears his ability to uphold the US Constitution is hampered by his megalomania and waning mental acuity.

[Old Seer]

When asked whether he needs to uphold the US Constitution, which he's now sworn twice to preserve, protect, and defend, the man says he doesn't know and will have to check with his lawyers before answering. 

Of course that's to the "best of his ability." It doesn't speak well for his regard for the duties and responsibilities of his office if he's unable to even verbally affirm that he personally acknowledges those duties and responsibilities without checking with "his lawyers" first. It appears his ability to uphold the US Constitution is hampered by his megalomania and waning mental acuity.

I will never trust leftist Judges. If Trump broke the constitution I would refer to Dershowitz and Victor Dais Hanson. I might have missed it and haven't seen heir analysis.

[Recusant]

When asked whether he needs to uphold the US Constitution, which he's now sworn twice to preserve, protect, and defend, the man says he doesn't know and will have to check with his lawyers before answering. 

Of course that's to the "best of his ability." It doesn't speak well for his regard for the duties and responsibilities of his office if he's unable to even verbally affirm that he personally acknowledges those duties and responsibilities without checking with "his lawyers" first. It appears his ability to uphold the US Constitution is hampered by his megalomania and waning mental acuity.

I will never trust leftist Judges. If Trump broke the constitution I would refer to Dershowitz and Victor Dais Hanson. I might have missed it and haven't seen heir analysis.

Lame bullshit deflection. The post was about the president and his reply to a straight-forward question, not judges.

[Old Seer]

 

When asked whether he needs to uphold the US Constitution, which he's now sworn twice to preserve, protect, and defend, the man says he doesn't know and will have to check with his lawyers before answering. 

Of course that's to the "best of his ability." It doesn't speak well for his regard for the duties and responsibilities of his office if he's unable to even verbally affirm that he personally acknowledges those duties and responsibilities without checking with "his lawyers" first. It appears his ability to uphold the US Constitution is hampered by his megalomania and waning mental acuity.

I will never trust leftist Judges. If Trump broke the constitution I would refer to Dershowitz and Victor Dais Hanson. I might have missed it and haven't seen heir analysis.

Lame bullshit deflection. The post was about the president and his reply to a straight-forward question, not judges.

You brought judges into the conversation making it fair game. That judge will not have the final determination of his ruling, the supreme court will. Trump isn't a constitutional scholar, he's a businessman type which makes him a basic authoritarian. I expect him to make mistakes. At least he,s concerned enough to consult his lawyers, he should get credit for that. I'm sure the lawyers will say nada, there's no known allowance to overstep the constitution. I don't consider nor  refer to anyone's postings as bullshit. I would consider myself rude and out of line. With me everyone gets a fair hearing and proper Human respect. OK, lets get back to business.
Can you cite any instance when Trump overstepped the constitution.

[Recusant]

You brought judges into the conversation making it fair game. That judge will not have the final determination of his ruling, the supreme court will. Trump isn't a constitutional scholar, he's a businessman type which makes him a basic authoritarian. I expect him to make mistakes. At least he,s concerned enough to consult his lawyers, he should get credit for that. I'm sure the lawyers will say nada, there's no known allowance to overstep the constitution. I don't consider nor  refer to anyone's postings as bullshit. I would consider myself rude and out of line. With me everyone gets a fair hearing and proper Human respect. OK, lets get back to business.
Can you cite any instance when Trump overstepped the constitution.

I brought judges into the conversation in a previous post that you didn't bother to honor with a reply. Judges are completely tangential to the post to which you're responding. 

Regarding that tangent: You may be right in implying that the current US Supreme Court could rule that the president is allowed to violate the US Constitution if he thinks it neeeds to be violated. That doesn't make it any less tyrannical for him to do so, it only speaks to the abject corruption of a significant element of the current bench.

There is an ugly dilemma that I take from this attempted defense of the president's response to a very basic question. One, he's non compos mentis. If he's so out of touch with reality and the sworn duties and responsibilities of his job that he can't simply re-affirm them when asked to do so, then he's not fit for the office. The only other reason he would have to be so "concerned" about such a simple question is that he thinks he likely is failing to fulfill the duties and responsibilities of his office. Specifically, he is not upholding the US Constitution and he knows it. Though maybe "his lawyers" (i.e. the Justice Department) can come up with some back-assward purposely misconstrued legal nonsense to attempt to justify violating the US Constitution--he needs to get their input for that.

He's previously shown his position regarding the US Constitution when he thinks it might get in his way:

In December 2022, while continuing to push the false claim that he lost the 2020 election due to widespread voter fraud, Trump suggested the "termination of all rules...even those found in the Constitution" was merited.

[source]

The hypothetical "concern" on the part of the president regarding the answer to an extremely simple yet eminently important question doesn't in any way justify his refusal to give the extremely simple (and only correct) response. He doesn't have to be a constitutional scholar to understand the duty and responsibility he swore twice to fulfill.

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You felt the discussion deserved its own thread. I did the backend work to make sure your thread has its full context. You either don't realise that or don't consider it worthy of comment. If I were so inclined I could claim to be offended by such rudeness. I'm not so inclined because I try to avoid posting vapid bullshit. 

It is perfectly legitimate to engage in robust criticism of the ideas posted in these threads. Ideas don't feel pain, and are not offended. Some members may feel so personally invested in an idea that they take offense when that idea is critiqued. That's their own business; they don't get to dictate the responses of others to the idea. Regarding your tone-policing the language in that reply, I'm afraid you've mistaken this site for an afternoon tea party composed of po-faced grandmothers. There is no rule here against salty fucking language.

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As for examples, you will find them in the post to which I did you the courtesy of linking previously. It's no concern of mine whether you feel you're capable of a more considered response other than "I think the judge is a leftist and therefore untrustworthy--the Supreme Court or some partisan hack might disagree with the judge."

[Icarus]

It seems that OS has drunk the Kool Aid.

Am I the only one that can see the sure signs of creeping Fascism under Trump rule?  (I think that "rule" is the appropriate word in this context,)

Trump has begun a concentrated practice of dismissing journalists of all stripes. Pronouncing news reports as "Fake news" is one of his regularly used gimmicks. Destroying the news media is a good start towards the fascist rule. Public ignorance is essential to ruling over them. Trashing the Voice of America, Radio Free Europe, National Public Radio, Public Broadcasting system are all precursors of of evil intent......if not evil, then stupid has to be the operative word.

Trump has intimidated numerous law firms to the extent that their fears have made them agree to represent him against whatever lawsuit or indictments may come his way. Control the judges, control the lawyers, that is a good start toward the fascist regime.

Close the Department of Education. That is another of his evil (or stupid) machinations. An ignorant mass is more easily controlled of course.

Why TF do we need to change the name of the Gulf of Mexico? Why do we need to change the name of Veterans day?  Are these indications of Imperialist ambitions?

Lies, lies, damned lies, tell the same lies long enough and they become de-facto truths. Hustle the rubes into believing that he is going to make America great again and they will support him without question. Isn't that how the aspiring dictator promotes his vile ambitions.

Sell them bibles so that they know for certain that he is a man of God who is incapable of any sort of chicanery. 

And the list goes on. This guy must truly believe that he is the Messiah whose destiny is to rule the word. He has recently said in clear terms; "I run this country, I run this world."

 Pissing off the Chinese, the Aussies, the Canadians, the EU nations, and much of the rest of the world is part of the deal I suppose.

     

 

[Old Seer]

So no one can find where Trump exceeded the constitution. I can't find one either. However, from my neutral perch I prefer Trump over any other at the moment. You may not agree but I am neutral which allows insight in many directions. To me Trump is a preference not a liking. But, we have a problem you're not seeing- maybe. You can choose a republican tyrant or a democrat tyrant, or Civil War, pick one.

Trump may be forced to overstep the constitution to preserve the country, or in the next presidential election the military industrial system retake control that consists of a a tyrannical cadre, and we all lose our freedoms and country - result, civil war. I won't explain as it would be a long one. You'll have to research it for yourselves to find why I came to this conclusion. All the information needed exists and can be found.

There is an unwritten specification  by the founders that government may at some circumstances be abolished, and I,m assuming ---reset. Back in the early 90's I predicted this will come to bullets.