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LET THE TRUMPETS BLARE!

Started by jumbojak, December 18, 2014, 03:03:49 PM

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Claireliontamer

A little perspective...... the seat I'll be standing in hasn't had a green candidate since 1992 and then they got 0.82% of the vote!

They can make up what they like but I doubt they'll be that interested in me!!!

Crow

Quote from: Claireliontamer on December 19, 2014, 08:29:23 PM
A little perspective...... the seat I'll be standing in hasn't had a green candidate since 1992 and then they got 0.82% of the vote!

They can make up what they like but I doubt they'll be that interested in me!!!

But isn't it your job to now try and tempt people to the green side? Say you manage to capture 10% that could be more than enough to upset the traditionally dominant party of that area.
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jumbojak

Quote from: Claireliontamer on December 19, 2014, 08:29:23 PM
A little perspective...... the seat I'll be standing in hasn't had a green candidate since 1992 and then they got 0.82% of the vote!

They can make up what they like but I doubt they'll be that interested in me!!!

I'll have none of this pessimism. Play to win!

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your flue clean."  - Ecurb Noselrub

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Claireliontamer

It's really unknown territory but Labour have a stronghold in Leeds as a whole.  There hasn't been a green option locally for so many years so I'm really starting from scratch.  If the national picture is anything to go by, we're polling at about 10% in the opinion polls and like I said earlier we've had a huge surge in membership.  But in summary yes I'll be using my local contacts to tempt as many people to the green side as possible!

Tank

Serious question. What is the Green party policy on fission based nuclear power?
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Claireliontamer

Quote from: Tank on December 19, 2014, 09:15:51 PM
Serious question. What is the Green party policy on fission based nuclear power?

We haven't been serious so far!?

The simple answer to your question is that we're an anti-nuclear power party.  We're very much in favour of renewables and the big emphasis is on reducing energy need.

The actual policy, all of which can be viewed here....http://policy.greenparty.org.uk:

QuoteEN261 We will cancel construction of new nuclear stations and nuclear power will not be eligible for government subsidy; the Green Party opposes all nuclear power generation and is particularly opposed to the construction of new nuclear power stations, electricity from which is likely to be significantly more expensive per unit supplied than other low-carbon energy sources, and too slow to deploy to meet our pressing energy needs. Cancellation will avoid the costs and dangers of nuclear energy and waste being passed on to future generations long after any benefits have been exhausted.

EN262 Money earmarked for new nuclear plant research, development and construction will be reallocated to energy efficiency measures and renewable energy infrastructure, but sufficient funding for decommissioning redundant power stations, and for research into the safe storage or disposal of existing radioactive waste stockpiles will be retained.

Eric V Arachnid

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Can't the trumpets do something other than Blare?
There are political connotations to be considered.
There is much to be said for a sustainable toot.
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Ecurb Noselrub

Claire should hire Eric/Marvin to make up salacious lies about your opponents that can be mass distributed.

On a serious note, perhaps you should go back and sanitize your posts on this forum, if any need sanitizing.

Firebird

Congrats Claire. I wonder if US law would allow us to create a super-PAC for you. 
Kidding! Maybe.
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Tank

Quote from: Claireliontamer on December 20, 2014, 01:32:17 PM
Quote from: Tank on December 19, 2014, 09:15:51 PM
Serious question. What is the Green party policy on fission based nuclear power?

We haven't been serious so far!?

The simple answer to your question is that we're an anti-nuclear power party.  We're very much in favour of renewables and the big emphasis is on reducing energy need.

The actual policy, all of which can be viewed here....http://policy.greenparty.org.uk:

QuoteEN261 We will cancel construction of new nuclear stations and nuclear power will not be eligible for government subsidy; the Green Party opposes all nuclear power generation and is particularly opposed to the construction of new nuclear power stations, electricity from which is likely to be significantly more expensive per unit supplied than other low-carbon energy sources, and too slow to deploy to meet our pressing energy needs. Cancellation will avoid the costs and dangers of nuclear energy and waste being passed on to future generations long after any benefits have been exhausted.

EN262 Money earmarked for new nuclear plant research, development and construction will be reallocated to energy efficiency measures and renewable energy infrastructure, but sufficient funding for decommissioning redundant power stations, and for research into the safe storage or disposal of existing radioactive waste stockpiles will be retained.

That's the killer point. Does your party differentiate between fission and fusion nuclear power? What is your party's position on alternative fission fuels such as thorium instead of uranium? What if a new nuclear technology were to be discovered what would your party's position be about funding research? What would your party do about funding 'blue sky' research into nuclear fission/fusion to simply find out what we don't know?
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Claireliontamer

Quote from: Tank on December 21, 2014, 09:43:20 AM
Quote from: Claireliontamer on December 20, 2014, 01:32:17 PM
Quote from: Tank on December 19, 2014, 09:15:51 PM
Serious question. What is the Green party policy on fission based nuclear power?

We haven't been serious so far!?

The simple answer to your question is that we're an anti-nuclear power party.  We're very much in favour of renewables and the big emphasis is on reducing energy need.

The actual policy, all of which can be viewed here....http://policy.greenparty.org.uk:

QuoteEN261 We will cancel construction of new nuclear stations and nuclear power will not be eligible for government subsidy; the Green Party opposes all nuclear power generation and is particularly opposed to the construction of new nuclear power stations, electricity from which is likely to be significantly more expensive per unit supplied than other low-carbon energy sources, and too slow to deploy to meet our pressing energy needs. Cancellation will avoid the costs and dangers of nuclear energy and waste being passed on to future generations long after any benefits have been exhausted.

EN262 Money earmarked for new nuclear plant research, development and construction will be reallocated to energy efficiency measures and renewable energy infrastructure, but sufficient funding for decommissioning redundant power stations, and for research into the safe storage or disposal of existing radioactive waste stockpiles will be retained.

That's the killer point. Does your party differentiate between fission and fusion nuclear power? What is your party's position on alternative fission fuels such as thorium instead of uranium? What if a new nuclear technology were to be discovered what would your party's position be about funding research? What would your party do about funding 'blue sky' research into nuclear fission/fusion to simply find out what we don't know?


Sorry I meant to come back to this but then Christmas got in the way.  The party has a very strong scientific research policy and is for increasing funding into research especially any renewable energy programmes.  The problem with nuclear fission is that it's never going to be renewable and is always going to produce waste to be dealt with and is potentially dangerous....you only have to look at Fukushima for example.  Personally I'd rather live in and have my children grow up in a nuclear fission free environment especially when alternatives exist.

Nuclear fusion is a little different and this is probably where I disagree to some extent with the current policy as I think we should differentiate between the two.  On the whole though I agree with more of the Green Party energy policy points than any of the other parties.  For instance, we're the only party to come out to be anti-fracking which is something I strongly agree with. 

Tank

Thanks Claire. I suppose all parties have their mindless dogma. It's a shame they can't tell the difference between fission, fusion and something we haven't even discovered yet. 
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

OldGit

Good luck to you, Claire!  I wouldn't want your gang to get too strong, but a few of you do some useful stirring-up. ;)

Claireliontamer

Quote from: OldGit on December 30, 2014, 07:58:24 PM
Good luck to you, Claire!  I wouldn't want your gang to get too strong, but a few of you do some useful stirring-up. ;)

Thanks OG, in terms of membership numbers we're catching you guys up!

Claireliontamer

Quote from: Tank on December 30, 2014, 07:32:04 PM
Thanks Claire. I suppose all parties have their mindless dogma. It's a shame they can't tell the difference between fission, fusion and something we haven't even discovered yet. 

I think it would be weird if a political party matched ALL your personal views.  All Green Party policies are devised and voted on by all members who go to conference, we don't have specialist policy writers.  In fact I have a motion at conference in May to rewrite sections of our mental health policy and I think there is also a motion on nuclear power so it'll be interesting to see what the outcome is.