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Neutrons Escaping to a Parallel World?

Started by xSilverPhinx, June 17, 2012, 06:18:02 AM

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xSilverPhinx

ScienceDaily - Neutrons Escaping to a Parallel World?

QuoteIn a paper recently published in European Physical Journal (EPJ) C, researchers hypothesised the existence of mirror particles to explain the anomalous loss of neutrons observed experimentally.

QuoteTheoretical physicists Zurab Berezhiani and Fabrizio Nesti from the University of l'Aquila, Italy, reanalysed the experimental data obtained by the research group of Anatoly Serebrov at the Institut Laue-Langevin, France. It showed that the loss rate of very slow free neutrons appeared to depend on the direction and strength of the magnetic field applied. This anomaly could not be explained by known physics.

This is so cool, even if not proven (yet, hopefully). Seriously, why need science fiction when physics can be stranger?  8)
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Recusant

Thanks for posting that, xSilverPhinx. I wish that I had a better grasp of the mathematics behind physics. The prose version of this seems overly vague. I imagine that a good look at the original work (including any equations) would be required to properly understand what they say might be going on. Maybe I'm just being obtuse. Then again, maybe the author of that brief article in ScienceDaily has done a less than stellar job translating it for a non-specialist reader.
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xSilverPhinx

Quote from: Recusant on June 17, 2012, 07:22:14 AM
Thanks for posting that, xSilverPhinx. I wish that I had a better grasp of the mathematics behind physics. The prose version of this seems overly vague. I imagine that a good look at the original work (including any equations) would be required to properly understand what they say might be going on. Maybe I'm just being obtuse. Then again, maybe the author of that brief article in ScienceDaily has done a less than stellar job translating it for a non-specialist reader.

I don't think you're being obtuse, I agree with your points. Mostly "This anomaly could not be explained by known physics." is what caught my eye, and the fact that something is happening to neutrons and is experimentally observed is very interesting. I'm assuming that it isn't like the other rather infamous CERN incident with the faster-than-light neutrinos.

QuoteThen again, maybe the author of that brief article in ScienceDaily has done a less than stellar job translating it for a non-specialist reader.

Huge problem facing science these days, if you ask me. ::) Alienating people will only harm in the long run, especially if trying to get people in general to support a cause, which would be to invest in science, when they don't understand what it's even about.
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markmcdaniel

Interesting article and I look forward to more information. I suspect that in the end this will not pan out. This of course may be due to my prejudice on the subject. I have a problem with multiple world interpretations of quantum physics due to the it's need for infinite energy to make it work. Still it will be a fun concept to play with.
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xSilverPhinx

Quote from: markmcdaniel on June 17, 2012, 08:53:35 AM
Interesting article and I look forward to more information. I suspect that in the end this will not pan out. This of course may be due to my prejudice on the subject. I have a problem with multiple world interpretations of quantum physics due to the it's need for infinite energy to make it work. Still it will be a fun concept to play with.

I think it has it's charme ;D Can it work with infinite energy coming from elsewhere besides this universe?

Problem with this is, and I'm a complete layperson here, but how would they even design an experiment to show that neutrons really are going to parallel universes? ???
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markmcdaniel

Quote from: xSilverPhinx on June 17, 2012, 10:06:38 AM
Quote from: markmcdaniel on June 17, 2012, 08:53:35 AM
Interesting article and I look forward to more information. I suspect that in the end this will not pan out. This of course may be due to my prejudice on the subject. I have a problem with multiple world interpretations of quantum physics due to the it's need for infinite energy to make it work. Still it will be a fun concept to play with.

I think it has it's charme ;D Can it work with infinite energy coming from elsewhere besides this universe?

Problem with this is, and I'm a complete layperson here, but how would they even design an experiment to show that neutrons really are going to parallel universes? ???
I think that regardless of its source that infinite is still going to be a problem. As for designing an experiment will probably be a nightmare.   
It appears to me (whether rightly or wrongly) that direct arguments against Christianity and theism produce hardly any effect on the public; and freedom of thought is best promoted by the gradual illumination of men's minds which follows from the advance of science - Charles Darwin

I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the object of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a god, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism. - Albert Einstein

Religion is a by product of fear. For much of human history, it may have been a necessary evil, but why was it more evil than necessary? Isn't killing people in the name of God a pretty good definition of insanity. - Arther C. Clarke

Faith means not wanting to know what is true. - Friedrich Nietzsche