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Atheist kills people

Started by Voter, January 18, 2011, 05:04:51 PM

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Voter

January 18, 2011, 05:04:51 PM
Quote from: "An anonymous atheist poster here"Your world view is your world view. If you keep it to yourself then I don't really care what it is. Trouble is you won't keep it to yourself and that's fine too. But if you won't keep your beliefs to yourself you have no right, no right whatsoever, not to have your world view bashed. You make your wo

LegendarySandwich

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January 18, 2011, 05:15:09 PM
Wait, you mean atheists kill people too? No way!  :crazy:

Velma

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January 18, 2011, 05:30:33 PM
He couldn't have been a 'True Atheist' then.   :P
Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of the astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy.~Carl Sagan

LegendarySandwich

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January 18, 2011, 05:36:20 PM
Quote from: "Velma"He couldn't have been a 'True Atheist' then.   :P
Yeah. I bet he really did believe in God.

Wait. All atheists really believe in God (the True God), according to Voter. Hm...

Velma

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January 18, 2011, 05:55:58 PM
Quote from: "LegendarySandwich"
Quote from: "Velma"He couldn't have been a 'True Atheist' then.   :crazy:
Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of the astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy.~Carl Sagan

Whitney

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January 18, 2011, 05:57:13 PM
Quote from: "Voter"http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=132766402

What's your point?

There is no reason to connect his being an atheist (someone who doesn't believe in god...no dogma attached) with his reasons for doing such a horrible thing (assuming he had a coherent reason, which I doubt).  

It's not like he was a christian who shot a gay rights activist...then you could draw a connection.

Will

#6
January 18, 2011, 07:14:34 PM
Jared Loughner was also a brunette, so your thread title could have just as easily read: "Brunette kills people".
I want bad people to look forward to and celebrate the day I die, because if they don't, I'm not living up to my potential.

hismikeness

#7
January 18, 2011, 07:20:35 PM
Quote from: "Will"Jared Loughner was also a brunette, so your thread title could have just as easily read: "Brunette kills people".

If that's really you in your avatar, your hair looks pretty brown...
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Velma

#8
January 18, 2011, 07:25:06 PM
Quote from: "Will"Jared Loughner was also a brunette, so your thread title could have just as easily read: "Brunette kills people".
I heard an interview with his mother.  Loughner is schizophrenic*.  Given his age (22) his family was pretty much powerless to make sure he took his medication and got the other help he needed.  From what his mother was saying, he apparently thinks he's in another psychiatric hospital.   :sigh:

*Most schizophrenics are more a danger to themselves than others.  You only hear about that less than 1% who are dangerous to others.
Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of the astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy.~Carl Sagan

LegendarySandwich

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January 18, 2011, 07:52:47 PM
Quote from: "Velma"
Quote from: "Will"Jared Loughner was also a brunette, so your thread title could have just as easily read: "Brunette kills people".
I heard an interview with his mother.  Loughner is schizophrenic*.  Given his age (22) his family was pretty much powerless to make sure he took his medication and got the other help he needed.  From what his mother was saying, he apparently thinks he's in another psychiatric hospital.   :sigh:

*Most schizophrenics are more a danger to themselves than others.  You only hear about that less than 1% who are dangerous to others.
Clearly, though, it was his atheism that made him commit these heinous acts. You can't argue with that.

Recusant

#10
January 18, 2011, 08:12:44 PM
Quote from: "Whitney"What's your point?
+1

Do you even have one, Voter?  Is this a simple-minded, "The murdering madman was an atheist, nyah nyah," with no other content?

How about, "White person kills people?"

"Drunkard kills people."

"One-time community college student kills people."

So on and so forth.  From reading the incoherent rants posted on youtube, I saw on the very day the shootings occurred that there was a possibility that Loughner was anti-God.  I mentioned in a thread here that it wouldn't surprise me to see this taken up by anti-atheism propagandists. If you think that posting a link to a story which mentions Loughner's alleged atheism is scoring points in some way, you have another think coming.  To me this looks like a feeble attempt to denigrate atheism based on the actions of a deranged individual.  As such, it says more about you than it does about atheism.  I'd appreciate it if you proved my conjecture about your motivation for posting the link wrong.
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
— H. L. Mencken

Mr. Deity and the Consent

Whitney

#11
January 18, 2011, 09:02:45 PM
Let me restate this...

Voter, if you do not tell us your point (and have one that isn't trollish) by tomorrow I'm going to give you a warning for trolling.  You've been logged in and posting since all of our replies to this thread so there really is no excuse for ignoring the topic.

Or, you could apologize for making such a stupid post and that would be fine too.

Sophus

#12
January 18, 2011, 11:47:18 PM
‎"Christian doesn't necessarily just mean good. It just means better." - John Oliver

Voter

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January 19, 2011, 01:36:35 PM
Quote from: "Whitney"Let me restate this...

Voter, if you do not tell us your point (and have one that isn't trollish) by tomorrow I'm going to give you a warning for trolling.  You've been logged in and posting since all of our replies to this thread so there really is no excuse for ignoring the topic.

Or, you could apologize for making such a stupid post and that would be fine too.
The article linked regards his nihilism. While atheism and nihilism are not synonymous, there can certainly be a connection.
http://atheism.about.com/od/nihilismnih ... theism.htm
And, in all fairness, some atheists do abandon those positions. Most atheists (in the West, at least) tend to be materialists of one sort or another, not believing in any non-material or supernatural realm. Atheists are also generally ethical relativists, adopting one form or another of ethical nihilism. And, finally, there are plenty of atheistic existentialists who believe that human life is objectively meaningless.
Quote from: "An anonymous atheist poster here"Your world view is your world view. If you keep it to yourself then I don't really care what it is. Trouble is you won't keep it to yourself and that's fine too. But if you won't keep your beliefs to yourself you have no right, no right whatsoever, not to have your world view bashed. You make your wo

McQ

#14
January 19, 2011, 01:46:59 PM
Voter has received a one week ban for continued trolling, after his warning.
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