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Started by anthon, December 25, 2010, 07:07:43 PM

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anthon

Me and My friend from Turkey have talked oneday about god he has tell me something about god.These words have me impressed:


There are Computer Programs.There are Computer Programmers.Like Windows XP Programs.There are big Programs in the structure of the Cell because people look like their Fathers and Mothers relatives because of the Programs.There is a big Program in the Cell.Who is the Programmer ?It must be exactly god.



 What think you,what can i say to him to refute his idea??????
 PLS HELP ME

Stevil

Hello anthon

Your friend is a genious, this proof he has offered is irrefutable. There are Computer Programs and there are Computer Programmers and God must be the programmer.

Well done, now lets spread the word.

Stevil

Oh, just one question, why do so many of these programs have bugs? Are we to blame the programmer or is it the tester's fault? Maybe simply a user error?

Stevil

Just one more question, sorry to be a pain. Is Bill Gates God's treasurer?

anthon

of course no but should i ask him? :)

Stevil

Quote from: "anthon"of course no but should i ask him? :)

Yes please. It is important to know. If he says no then maybe he is God's benefactor instead, although it seems to be a shared role with Larry Ellison, and Steve Jobs as well. Please ask them all and post up the response once you have a response from all of them. Do not underestimate the importance of this. I would also be keen to know who the architect is that is instructing God at the macro level on what needs to be programmed. I'm sure God isn't a cowboy and simply programming without a macro design.

The Magic Pudding

I think we're talking about DNA here.
A life form, be it a potato, or a person is defined by their DNA.
Darwin didn't know of DNA, but Dawkins and his generation of Neo Darwinists do.
When DNA is reproduced mutations sometimes occur, some help the life form who carries it, if so they are more likely to survive and pass this change on to their descendants.  Over millions of years of accumulated change an elephant with it's long trunk evolves. This is because the trunk helps the animal survive, not because god thought it looked cool.

And animals are not perfectly designed, there are many examples of odd things left over from distant descendants.  
When was the last time you used your appendix?  Why are humans so prone to back injury?

So there is no need to put a god into the equation, unless you really need one personaly.

Stevil

Sorry for being silly, it is the silly season after all, but surely this thread is not serious.

Tank

Quote from: "anthon"Me and My friend from Turkey have talked oneday about god he has tell me something about god.These words have me impressed:


There are Computer Programs.There are Computer Programmers.Like Windows XP Programs.There are big Programs in the structure of the Cell because people look like their Fathers and Mothers relatives because of the Programs.There is a big Program in the Cell.Who is the Programmer ?It must be exactly god.



 What think you,what can i say to him to refute his idea??????
 PLS HELP ME
This guy is probably a sock puppet of a previously banned member 'programer', post reported so don't be surprised if this thread ends up binned. Using the forum search for Like Windows XP Programs reveals the potential link.
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Asmodean

Comparison fail.

Not unlike comparing atoms to solar systems or constellations of stars to a rash on your ass.

Humans are not like computers at this moment, and when (if) we are, it will be because we create them to be as much as possible like us. The whole comparison is faulty.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Heretical Rants

Take a good look at some whale's hip bones and call me in the morning.

anthon

Quote from: "Stevil"
Quote from: "anthon"of course no but should i ask him? :)

Yes please. It is important to know. If he says no then maybe he is God's benefactor instead, although it seems to be a shared role with Larry Ellison, and Steve Jobs as well. Please ask them all and post up the response once you have a response from all of them. Do not underestimate the importance of this. I would also be keen to know who the architect is that is instructing God at the macro level on what needs to be programmed. I'm sure God isn't a cowboy and simply programming without a macro design.


So I have able to meet as a result of long efforts he has said this interesting that I have no heard before :

If there are vireses in the Program we can make another program which rejects vires . These program also indicates a programmer too. The program can’t be produced by itself.


Everybody was  created by God. If you are as clever as Bill Gates you can be a programmer too.


If a robot builds a factory which produces computers or laptops.
This robot indicates an engineer.
Human being is a kind of robot who can produce Computer.


And he has said to me when your friends on the form have any questions they can all ask .

Asmodean

Quote from: "anthon"So I have able to meet as a result of long efforts he has said this interesting that I have no heard before :
Coherency fail.

QuoteIf there are vireses in the Program we can make another program which rejects vires . These program also indicates a programmer too. The program can’t be produced by itself.
...And how do you know you can not have self-producing algorithms given the right conditions..?

QuoteEverybody was  created by God. If you are as clever as Bill Gates you can be a programmer too.
Logic fail, possibly comparison fail.

QuoteIf a robot builds a factory which produces computers or laptops.
...Or cookie jars. You (or "he") started a sentence with an "if", but provided no conclusion... Obviously, YOU... Err... *HE* is not a programmer  :P

QuoteThis robot indicates an engineer.
No.
 
QuoteHuman being is a kind of robot who can produce Computer.
A human being is an electrochemical computer, yes, if you want to simplify.

QuoteAnd he has said to me when your friends on the form have any questions they can all ask .
OR "he" could very well get "his" butt over here so that we could see if "he" and "you" were possibly in the same IP-range...
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

anthon

QuoteAnd he has said to me when your friends on the form have any questions they can all ask .
OR "he" could very well get "his" butt over here so that we could see if "he" and "you" were possibly in the same IP-range...[/quote]


I call him or meet him when my friend has time i didnt say that he write me ..

Asmodean

Quote from: "anthon"I call him or meet him when my friend has time i didnt say that he write me ..
...And you are not the first person to speak on behalf of his Turkish friend about the same nonsense (It is, by the way, nonsense because the comparison of humans to computers is flawed.)
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.