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A Very Unusual Proof for the Existence of God

Started by jfraatz, September 23, 2010, 09:07:16 PM

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Quote from: "Tanker"If the Universe were a mind or a being we would be what? Parasites? Symbiotes?
Considering we're a product of the universe, we would likely be akin to a mitochondrion.
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DropLogic

Anyone ever notice the resemblance of galaxies to solar systems to atomic particles?

Tanker

Quote from: "DropLogic"Anyone ever notice the resemblance of galaxies to solar systems to atomic particles?

Thats what, among other things, physics attempts to understand and explain.
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Quote from: "DropLogic"Anyone ever notice the resemblance of galaxies to solar systems to atomic particles?

Actually, no. Certainly, galaxies and solar systems have a very strong resemblance, not least because they are essentially the same thing on different scales. Atoms are entirely different, though, and bear no resemblance to solar systems and galaxies. That picture of the atom was supplanted in 1911. The Rutherford 'solar system' model of the atom is still a useful teaching tool, because it is easy to visualise, but it isn't really a good model, not least because of the fact that electron behaviour is best described in terms of waves rather than particles. Electrons don't so much orbit a nucleus as they exist in a state of quantum probability.
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DropLogic

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Quote from: "DropLogic"Anyone ever notice the resemblance of galaxies to solar systems to atomic particles?

Actually, no. Certainly, galaxies and solar systems have a very strong resemblance, not least because they are essentially the same thing on different scales. Atoms are entirely different, though, and bear no resemblance to solar systems and galaxies. That picture of the atom was supplanted in 1911. The Rutherford 'solar system' model of the atom is still a useful teaching tool, because it is easy to visualise, but it isn't really a good model, not least because of the fact that electron behaviour is best described in terms of waves rather than particles. Electrons don't so much orbit a nucleus as they exist in a state of quantum probability.

I understand the difference, however the basic structure remains the same.  Smaller bodies going around a larger body located in the middle.  What I find to be the most interesting correlation is the distances between objects is equivalent at any scale; meaning the distance from nucleus to electrons, planets to stars, solar systems to each other, galaxies to each other.  So much "empty" space.

SSY

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Quote from: "DropLogic"Anyone ever notice the resemblance of galaxies to solar systems to atomic particles?

Actually, no. Certainly, galaxies and solar systems have a very strong resemblance, not least because they are essentially the same thing on different scales. Atoms are entirely different, though, and bear no resemblance to solar systems and galaxies. That picture of the atom was supplanted in 1911. The Rutherford 'solar system' model of the atom is still a useful teaching tool, because it is easy to visualise, but it isn't really a good model, not least because of the fact that electron behaviour is best described in terms of waves rather than particles. Electrons don't so much orbit a nucleus as they exist in a state of quantum probability.

I understand the difference, however the basic structure remains the same.  Smaller bodies going around a larger body located in the middle.  What I find to be the most interesting correlation is the distances between objects is equivalent at any scale; meaning the distance from nucleus to electrons, planets to stars, solar systems to each other, galaxies to each other.  So much "empty" space.


Electrons don't really go round anything unfortunately, they have angular momentum, but it is more a consequence of the commutation relations between Cartesian L operators that we decide to call this property angular momentum. You are right about the relative distance scale though, which is something that has always interested me, and whether is the only possible distribution of matter possible given the laws of physics.
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