Godless morality

[Tank]

Lying to get laid is something most men and women have done at some point. Once you get into that realm any lie is a bad idea, which is why when I met my wife I retracted my first lie almost immediately  

In long term relationships honesty is the only policy and if you can't be faithful keep it to yourself and don't get caught.

[Asmodean]

Never intentionally misled any of my dates... No wonder I'm single  

[Tank]

Never intentionally misled any of my dates... No wonder I'm single  

No it's not the lies that are the problem it's the truth you have to be careful of such as 'the unanswerable question', 'Do I look fat in this?', that is the relationship killer. If I ever get that or another version of the unanswerable question I simply give the 'implied facepalm' look so she knows I know I'm not falling for that old trick!

[Asmodean]

That's exactly what I implied  :pop:

[The Magic Pudding]

I prefer not to lie.
It may not be rational, but I think lying cost you something, it's not good for you.

[Asmodean]

A fair point, actually... Lies have an unfortunate tendency to catch up with the liar - even the best ones.

[The Magic Pudding]

I never knew a man
could tell so many lies
He had a different story
for every set of eyes.
How can he remember
who he's talkin' to?
'Cause I know it ain't me,
and I hope it isn't you.

I don't need much excuse to quote Neil Young

[Thumpalumpacus]

I've never lied about my lack of faith, and don't see the point.  It may've cost me a roll in the hay or two, but at 43 I've had plenty of those already.

[Kylyssa]

What if you fall in love with her?  I mean, it's not necessarily a first date kind of thing and it can wait until she brings it up but it's pretty important.

Dude, cut it out.

[KebertX]

I don't know why I typed this, but I'm not erasing it: I've got some awkward pathological liar bullshit in my past, so I don't think I'm ever lying about my personality again.  Long story short, I perpetuated a huge lie about myself for several months, and it is simply painful.  When you have the compulsion to lie, even when it is much easier to tell the truth, you have a mental problem.  But that's me, I don't think the OP has any insanity issues...

If you choose to not tell someone you're an atheist, that's cool... for now. Before long, you're going to have to tell her though. That's all I can say.

[Asmodean]

insanity issues...

That's what my psychiatrist told me  

[humblesmurph]

What if you fall in love with her?  I mean, it's not necessarily a first date kind of thing and it can wait until she brings it up but it's pretty important.

Dude, cut it out.

Hahaha.  I am actively trying to cut it out.  I don't think falling in love is much of a problem though.  I think I may have some sort of mental block when it comes to theists.  The woman I get serious with or marry would most likely have to be an atheist.  

I always seem to be confronted with the god conversation before things get physical.  If I could somehow delay that talk until after a roll in the hay or two then I guess I wouldn't have any problems.

Any ideas on how to side step the god question?

[humblesmurph]

Lying to get laid is something most men and women have done at some point. Once you get into that realm any lie is a bad idea, which is why when I met my wife I retracted my first lie almost immediately  

In long term relationships honesty is the only policy and if you can't be faithful keep it to yourself and don't get caught.

I hope to someday have what you have Tank.

I had to look up "slapper".  I haven't lied to every woman I've dated, but when I did lie it was because she was a "slapper" and I just wanted to "get into her knickers".  I figured there was no long term potential anyway, so why ruin the fun we could have?   I'm pretty sure none of these women were closeted atheists.  Besides, I wouldn't know how to find out without asking.  Once I ask them, they are going to ask me, and that is precisely what I want to avoid.

I'm glad her poor aim and/or you quick reflexes prevented you being assaulted by a book.  I like the last part "...if you can't be faithful keep it to yourself and don't get caught."  One woman at a time for me, but if I ever slip up, I'll keep these words of wisdom in mind.  

[Tank]

I like the last part "...if you can't be faithful keep it to yourself and don't get caught."  One woman at a time for me, but if I ever slip up, I'll keep these words of wisdom in mind.  

Surprising as it may seem, this bit of wisdom came at different times from two different ladies. Both had husbands that played away but could not keep their mouths shut about it! They sort of required forgiveness for their transgressions. In both cases the marriages lasted long enough for the kids to grow up and leave home and then the wives kicked out their husbands! Both women just got fed up with having to be emotionally complicit with their husbands and didn't like getting their noses 'rubbed in it'. I work away from home a lot and my wife knows that I will come home to her and I always will. She works away too and I know she would always come home. I don't ask her what she gets up to and she doesn't ask me. We treated the kids in much the same way. Once they were 16 (age of consent in the UK) their rooms became their own. I would much rather that my kids were safe where I knew they could get help than elsewhere where they couldn't. Given that freedom they respected it. I don't think all kids could be treated that way, we were careful that ours could. None of my kids are theists and none of their partners are either which I am quite proud of. They made their own minds up and came down on the side of a superstition free life.

[SSY]

This lying seems no worse than my outrageously padded cod piece.