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Started by TomThumb, June 15, 2010, 02:10:59 PM

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i_am_i

Quote from: "Ned"Personally, I find the idea that Dinosaurs were overgrown lizards to be interesting, and my hunch is that it is the truth. However, I fully admit that I can't prove it, and wouldn't have the first idea about how to.

Also (and this isn't aimed at you personally), I think it would be a good idea for people to remember that this is an internet forum, not a Critique of Pure Reason. I think people should be allowed to suggest an idea without having to provide extensive references or footnotes.

Aw, come on. I'm not asking for all that. I'm just really curious why you have this hunch that dinosaurs were overgrown lizards, that's all.
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pinkocommie

Quote from: "Ned"Also (and this isn't aimed at you personally), I think it would be a good idea for people to remember that this is an internet forum, not a Critique of Pure Reason. I think people should be allowed to suggest an idea without having to provide extensive references or footnotes.

Don't you think it might make more sense to get a feel for this particular forum before declaring how everyone here ought to behave?  I think in this case, it's not that everyone here doesn't understand how forums are supposed to work, it's that you lack an understanding of the nuances of this particular forum.  If you don't like how this forum works, you don't have to participate here.
Ubi dubium ibi libertas: Where there is doubt, there is freedom.
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Tank

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Quote from: "Ned"This guy talked a lot of sense and you would wonder why he was banned.

What is your definition of 'sense'?  Can you give me an example of this with the contributions TomThumb made here?
To be fair I didn't agree with everything TomThumb said, but I think his belief that Dinosaurs are overgrown lizards is thought-provoking and merits further investigation.

If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Tank

Ned.

If you are interested in evolution have a look here http://www.rationalskepticism.org/evolu ... html#p3345
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Whitney

Quote from: "pinkocommie"
Quote from: "Ned"Also (and this isn't aimed at you personally), I think it would be a good idea for people to remember that this is an internet forum, not a Critique of Pure Reason. I think people should be allowed to suggest an idea without having to provide extensive references or footnotes.

Don't you think it might make more sense to get a feel for this particular forum before declaring how everyone here ought to behave?  I think in this case, it's not that everyone here doesn't understand how forums are supposed to work, it's that you lack an understanding of the nuances of this particular forum.  If you don't like how this forum works, you don't have to participate here.

I would add that just because a spot on the internet is set up using forum software does not bind it to complying with the wishes of random people who join and start immediately complaining  ;)

Ned

I wish to apologize for the belligerent tone of some of my earlier posts.

Tank

Quote from: "Ned"I wish to apologize for the belligerent tone of some of my earlier posts.
The survival instinct is strong in this one!

Seriously Ned, tell us a bit about yourself please  :pop:
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Ned

Quote from: "i_am_i"
Quote from: "Ned"Personally, I find the idea that Dinosaurs were overgrown lizards to be interesting, and my hunch is that it is the truth. However, I fully admit that I can't prove it, and wouldn't have the first idea about how to.

Also (and this isn't aimed at you personally), I think it would be a good idea for people to remember that this is an internet forum, not a Critique of Pure Reason. I think people should be allowed to suggest an idea without having to provide extensive references or footnotes.

Aw, come on. I'm not asking for all that. I'm just really curious why you have this hunch that dinosaurs were overgrown lizards, that's all.
You have to admit that dinosaurs do bear a strong resemblance to large lizards.

Davin

Quote from: "Ned"You have to admit that dinosaurs do bear a strong resemblance to large lizards.
No one has to admit anything, additionally: they don't resemble lizards.
Always question all authorities because the authority you don't question is the most dangerous... except me, never question me.

i_am_i

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Quote from: "i_am_i"
Quote from: "Ned"Personally, I find the idea that Dinosaurs were overgrown lizards to be interesting, and my hunch is that it is the truth. However, I fully admit that I can't prove it, and wouldn't have the first idea about how to.

Also (and this isn't aimed at you personally), I think it would be a good idea for people to remember that this is an internet forum, not a Critique of Pure Reason. I think people should be allowed to suggest an idea without having to provide extensive references or footnotes.

Aw, come on. I'm not asking for all that. I'm just really curious why you have this hunch that dinosaurs were overgrown lizards, that's all.

You have to admit that dinosaurs do bear a strong resemblance to large lizards.

But they don't, not really, not if you look into it at all, which you obviously haven't. They bear more of a resemblance to birds if anything. Dinosaur legs are completely different from lizard legs, for example.
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pinkocommie

Quote from: "Ned"
Quote from: "i_am_i"
Quote from: "Ned"Personally, I find the idea that Dinosaurs were overgrown lizards to be interesting, and my hunch is that it is the truth. However, I fully admit that I can't prove it, and wouldn't have the first idea about how to.

Also (and this isn't aimed at you personally), I think it would be a good idea for people to remember that this is an internet forum, not a Critique of Pure Reason. I think people should be allowed to suggest an idea without having to provide extensive references or footnotes.

Aw, come on. I'm not asking for all that. I'm just really curious why you have this hunch that dinosaurs were overgrown lizards, that's all.
You have to admit that dinosaurs do bear a strong resemblance to large lizards.

There are lots and lots of different dinosaurs - which ones are you talking about?  I think that's what makes this assertion so absurd to me.  A brontosaurus looks more like an elephant or a giraffe than a lizard to me, even if we're just making casual observations.  A Pterodactyl could just as easily strike a strong resemblance to a bird or a bat than a lizard.  TomThumb's suggestion that this idea is anything close to a theory or at all scientifically sound is literally laughable.
Ubi dubium ibi libertas: Where there is doubt, there is freedom.
http://alliedatheistalliance.blogspot.com/

Squid

Wow, so you think that maybe the dinosaurs were reptiles just like lizards?!  Holy crap, what a coincidence!

But seriously, the "observation" is a very elementary one.  Modern lizards are diapsids (subclass of reptiles) which reside in a separate infraclass called Lepidosauormorpha and those closer what people would consider "dinosaurs" would be the infraclass Archosauromorpha - it gets much more complicated from there, so simply saying "dinosaurs are overgrown lizards" is scientifically meaningless.

i_am_i

Something tells me, as Butch said in Pulp Fiction, "Ned is dead, baby. Ned is dead."

Yes, I know, it was actually Zed, and no, I don't mean that Ned is actually dead. What I mean that I'm pretty sure he's been banished from our midst, the poor unfortunate kid. But it was for the best.

Kids at adult parties have always annoyed the shit out of me. What the hell are their parents thinking?
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