Atheism, terrorism

[Dretlin]

FTLebanon           *I mean theories that crashed and was based upon atheism
Islam prohibits suicide he committed suicide we have in the Fire
well what about Hitler then hhhhhh
Joked with you

*See Link

This is clearly a joke.

[pinkocommie]

Really?  Clearly?  I don't know what to make of it, but I am comfortable regarding this person as a (possibly unintentional) troll.

[Dretlin]

Really?  Clearly?  I don't know what to make of it, but I am comfortable regarding this person as a (possibly unintentional) troll.

Really? Possibly?
 

[pinkocommie]

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[Cecilie]

I don't understand a thing that moslim is trying to say. I couldn't write english that bad even if I tried...

[philosoraptor]

It's becoming increasingly difficult to engage in positive discussion with you moslim, as your answers are making less and less sense, and looking more like they were run through a poor online translator.  You obviously have your mind made up about what an atheist is either way, however you are dead wrong and are not going to convince anyone here.  Just a thought, maybe someone who is an atheist knows more about what it means to be one than someone who is not.

[i_am_i]

I've compiled everything moslim has posted to this thread and made it into modern poetry. It's subversive and very much cutting edge. Hell, it's almost brilliant. I'm thinking about submiting it to the New Yorker.

Atheism, Terrorism

I am a Muslim Arab
I want to put my point of view
I think that atheism fell long ago
Embrace of atheism often commit suicide does not live long
Atheism has no morals morality derives from religion
Atheism, terrorism is trying to suppress religion and his followers killed without pity or mercy
Do not believe Why do you put more???
I did not understand how it is not a belief?? Know me or possible beliefs, in your opinion??
Can you please explain to me more
Please give me a guide that atheists live in the same average age of believers
Aoki, who came from the moral starting??
Which calls for ethics is religion
And give me evidence of history
I mean see what I did in the world of communism and the Hitler Muslim Turkistan and China
We Muslims the world over judging in a time of times and lived
Religions, Christianity and Buddhism in India at peace with us
Even atheism is now live in peace with us did not kill Lara religious atheist Muslim countries
Thank you for your respect through dialogue
My brothers did not respond to my questions??
My brothers did not respond to my questions??
Did not respond to any point of the topic
I did not understand what you mean aircraft, buildings, and eat children and have sex before marriage
Dretlin Where From morals??
philosoraptor they did not follow the teachings of Islam
But Hitler and communism destroyed the world the teachings of atheism
This difference
Tank, Why do not you do??
Nothing prevents you
Why not do these things
Atheist only be considered on the ethics of interest
Book the Bible you have philosophers
Hitler Doing this from the teachings of Darwinism
karadan I do not agree with you the definitions of atheist
Dretlin Did Hitler go to church and preach the Christian religion
Give me the directory of the words and actions he is a Christian
Heretical Rants you afraid of the consequences only
Without consequences will kill me and Tsergni
KDbeads I have seen links
Search for a book of Daroyen to Hitler
Talk about the relationship between them in detail
Give me evidence that God does not exist
Dretlin I mean Hitler
Will If atheism minus
Your word is incorrect Because the ideas of philosophers into ideologies
Give me a guide that morality does not come with Religion
This new science and ethics existed since time immemorial
This science can not prove that the proportion of those who Ethics
Morals have her relative
You will not steal because people look at you
If you're in a society that allows for murder killed
There is a political trick in Afghanistan you do not know what happened and what is happening there
By the United States
Altruism does not exist Why did if
You took a strange paradox term preference of religion
Thank you for your esteemed Hawwark
Kylyssa Religious taught me to respect others and not Awvem
You are of your knowledge, respect for others
I'll stay a Muslim and will die a Muslim
Give me evidence that the atheist does not want to kill
Feelings are relative
FTLebanon I mean theories that crashed and was based upon atheism
Islam prohibits suicide he committed suicide we have in the Fire
well what about Hitler then hhhhhh
Joked with you

[Cecilie]

Haha. That is so great. Maybe you could turn it into a song next. I would totally buy that on iTunes.

[i_am_i]

Haha. That is so great. Maybe you could turn it into a song next. I would totally buy that on iTunes.

Oh man, putting that to music would be crazy! Hell, I might give it a go. Maybe some kind of funky drum 'n bass groove. Hah!

[Cecilie]

You really should do it! I'm super cereal! The only problem would be to remember the lyrics.

[Will]

Will * If atheism minus
Your word is incorrect Because the ideas of philosophers into ideologies
* Give me a guide that morality does not come with Religion

I did when I gave a brief description of human behavioral evolution. If you would like me to elaborate in greater detail, I can. Still, the answer doesn't have to be that complicated:

I, Will, disbelieve the existence of god and gods. I am not religious at all and desrive none of my thoughts or behaviors from religion.
I, Will, am moral.  I think of others before myself, I assist those in need without asking anything in return and I treat others as I wish to be teated.
Therefore, morality does not necessarily come from religion.

This new science and ethics existed since time immemorial
This science can not prove that the proportion of those who Ethics
Morals have her relative
You will not steal because people look at you
If you're in a society that allows for murder killed

I will not steal for several reasons. The most obvious reason is that I live in a society and as such there are consequences for theft. In addition to this, however, is that I have an innate sense that theft is wrong. That innate sense comes from, as I said above, millions of years of social evolution. Thirdly, I do not steal because ultimately I am damaging the society of which I am a member. If I steal from my neighbor, there's a ripple effect that spreads out and effects more people.

* There is a political trick in Afghanistan you do not know what happened and what is happening there
By the United States

A very good friend of mine lives in Afghanistan, so I'll email him and ask about political trickery vs. religious indoctrination. If our previous discussions on the topic are any indication, though, I'm afraid he's going to back me up on this 100%. Islam can be and is used for terrible things. To deny that is to deny reality.

* Altruism does not exist Why did if
You took a strange paradox term preference of religion

Pure altruism can't exist, but practical altruism does. I elaborated on this above.

What language is native to you? Perhaps it would be easier to do this in Farsi or Arabic.

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Kylyssa  Religious taught me to respect others and not Awvem
You are of your knowledge, respect for others
I'll stay a Muslim and will die a Muslim
Give me evidence that the atheist does not want to kill
Feelings are relative

Look, harun yahya is a crook, there is no truth in what he says, keeps misrepresenting scientific facts and mixes fact with mythology. What he does, is appeal to a simple mind by fulfilling it's wishes. There is a difference between that, and presenting the facts the way they are, without trying to appeal to any prepositions or predispositions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adnan_Oktar i don't think he has a nice track record if you care to read the document here. Also i won't be surprised that you can't read it because he would have wikipedia blocked anyways.

Many ppl i know said so, and let me tell you, they are no longer Muslim or anything like that. Humans have minds of their own, and until they realize that, and learn to use it properly they will just stay muslim, and if they stay long enough, they may never see the light.

An atheist does not want to kill, to put it simply using your words, because doing so is not beneficial to anybody. A society that condones killing will not do as well as another one that does not allow it, and over time that society will grow and prosper, mostly at the expense of the society that condones killing. And there is also the reciprocal golden rule: You shall no do onto others, what you do not want done onto you. Religion states that the punishment of murder is death, simply validating the golden rule, and the reciprocal golden rule, except these golden rules well predate any religion, they even exist in monkey and lion prides, as as many other social animals... it is not even human, it is part of how life and evolution works. This is a very unreasonable assumption from your side to even assume. The other interesting revelation is, atheists don't think there is an afterlife either, and that deals away with heaven (reward) and hell (punishment) aspect of the supernatural motivation or discouragement to murder. Add to that, that we atheist cherish our lives, and understand that this is our only chance to do good in the world, we don't want to waste it not doing good, and most importantly, we don't want to waste anyone Else's life for the very same reason. So an atheist would alternately have no urge to be violent towards his/her fellow human beings, and finds if far more useful and beneficial to harmoniously work together with others to achieve a better society.

Feelings, interesting to bring this one up. I am not sure if you actually meant it that way. They are the biochemical and psychological reaction of usually external inputs with your conscious and semi conscious mind. The reaction is based upon some hard wired behavioral patterns, like fear of snakes, fear of darkness etc.. and learned patterns, like fear of other religions and fear of an imaginary gods etc... but ultimately these are reactions within your mind, and they can be controlled and managed by you, either deliberately on inadvertently. You can exaggerated them, ignore them, suppress them, transform them, or amplify and express them. Ultimately you control your emotions, feelings and reactions, and not someone else.

[moslim]

elliebeanI have an objection
I have an objection
Do not compel me to your definition of
If you want to debate the topic

[pinkocommie]

Tarivatkm Special

According to the internet, this doesn't exist.  Not even when capitalized!

[philosoraptor]

Do not compel me to your definition of
If you want to debate the topic

Seriously?  Because you're trying to argue with a bunch of atheists about what atheism is.  Take your own advice, hypocrite.