Re: Christians in uniform

[jobee]

As I said in my previous post, perhaps when one feels they are defending their values and beliefs - that is defending their god/gods/unicorns or whatever people decide they want to worship.

But why dont the leading prelates speak up about the 'voluntary' killers in the their ranks.


[thou shall not kill]

[jobee]

Why are Christians volunteering to kill.

Thousands of Christians are in the US and UK Armed forces volunteering to kill [including padres].

What happened to 'thou shall not kill'.

Technically, it says Thou shalt not murder (unlawful killing). Nothing unlawful about killing in war.

Its about time they sorted it out

Multiple translations exist of the sixth commandment; the Hebrew words לא תרצח are variously translated as "thou shalt not kill" or "thou shalt not murder." Older Protestant translations of the Bible, those based on the Vulgate and Roman Catholic translations usually render it as "Thou shalt not kill," whereas Jewish and newer Protestant versions tend to use "You shall not murder." There is controversy as to which translation is more faithful, and both forms are quoted in support of many opposing ethical standpoints.

[jobee]

Why are Christians volunteering to kill.

Thousands of Christians are in the US and UK Armed forces volunteering to kill [including padres].

What happened to 'thou shall not kill'.

Could you expand on what you mean exactly?

Religious values can be seen to stand alongside cultural ones. Such as defending a nations values and interests.

Even though this can be seen as a contradiction. Is this what you are referring to?

this is what i mean


1.     I, the Lord, am your God. You shall not have other gods besides me.
2.     You shall not take the name of the Lord God in vain
3.     Remember to keep holy the Lord's Day
4.     Honor your father and your mother
5.     You shall not kill
6.     You shall not commit adultery
7.     You shall not steal
8.     You shall not bear false witness
9.     You shall not covet your neighbor's wife
10. You shall not covet your neighbor's goods

http://www.catholicbible101.com/thetencommandments.htm

[Whitney]

If I were a Christian and were trying to explain why it was okay for people to kill others when directed by God that it could only make sense to use the thou shall not "murder" translation as thou shall not kill not only makes other parts of the bible hypocritical but would also prevent us from eating anything more than fruits and nuts.

That said, those who pointed out how silly it is to ask atheists what is going through a Christian's mind had a great point.

[jobee]

If I may counter your initial question with an equlivalent question:

Why does an atheist who would, presumably, describe himself as a rational thinker go on an atheist forum to ask atheists to speculate on the motivations of christians

?

There are Christians on here, why dont they speak up about this anomaly.
Also, the Arch Bishop of Canterbury never speaks up about these voluntary killers.
Why does'n't he speak up about his Padres that volunteer.

[jobee]

If I were a Christian and were trying to explain why it was okay for people to kill others when directed by God that it could only make sense to use the thou shall not "murder" translation as thou shall not kill not only makes other parts of the bible hypocritical but would also prevent us from eating anything more than fruits and nuts.

That said, those who pointed out how silly it is to ask atheists what is going through a Christian's mind had a great point.

Thou shall not murder is the jewish translation.
Thou shall not kill is what the roman catholics supposed to obey.
But the Pope accepted Blair into the catholic church after Blair's unprovoked attack on Iraq.
Thus,Christians are encouraging war.

Also, it was Christian countries that started the 'first' and 'second' world war.

[Dretlin]

If I were a Christian and were trying to explain why it was okay for people to kill others when directed by God that it could only make sense to use the thou shall not "murder" translation as thou shall not kill not only makes other parts of the bible hypocritical but would also prevent us from eating anything more than fruits and nuts.

That said, those who pointed out how silly it is to ask atheists what is going through a Christian's mind had a great point.

Thou shall not murder is the jewish translation.
Thou shall not kill is what the roman catholics supposed to obey.
But the Pope accepted Blair into the catholic church after Blair's unprovoked attack on Iraq.
Thus,Christians are encouraging war.

Also, it was Christian countries that started the 'first' and 'second' world war.

World war 1 nor 2 was motivated by faith.

You also neglect to mention the war in the East, which began much earlier.

[Sophus]

There also some violent Buddhists. Go figure. Did you expect religion to be rational?

But the Bible is filled with conquering and killing in the name of God. Doesn't surprise me that the tradition carries on today.

[jobee]

Jobee shouldn't this question be directed at Christians.

If I may counter your initial question with an equlivalent question:

Why does an atheist who would, presumably, describe himself as a rational thinker go on an atheist forum to ask atheists to speculate on the motivations of christians?

I ditto this.

You seem to be getting upset that a bunch of Atheists wont give you a straight answer on a subject they can't really know. We can make educated guesses but not really claim deffinitively why anyone who is not us decideds to do anything. Go to a Christian forum I think they may be able to tell how Christian feel about it.

I've been barred from every Christian forum i've put this question to, they dish it out, but they cant take it.

[Dretlin]

I've been barred from every Christian forum i've put this question to, they dish it out, but they cant take it.

Care to name a few?

[jobee]

If I were a Christian and were trying to explain why it was okay for people to kill others when directed by God that it could only make sense to use the thou shall not "murder" translation as thou shall not kill not only makes other parts of the bible hypocritical but would also prevent us from eating anything more than fruits and nuts.

That said, those who pointed out how silly it is to ask atheists what is going through a Christian's mind had a great point.

Thou shall not murder is the jewish translation.
Thou shall not kill is what the roman catholics supposed to obey.
But the Pope accepted Blair into the catholic church after Blair's unprovoked attack on Iraq.
Thus,Christians are encouraging war.

Also, it was Christian countries that started the 'first' and 'second' world war.

The Germany of world war 2 was deeply Christian==read on==

http://www.nobeliefs.com/mementoes.htm

http://www.nobeliefs.com/mementoes.htm

World war 1 nor 2 was motivated by faith.

You also neglect to mention the war in the East, which began much earlier.

[jobee]

I've been barred from every Christian forum i've put this question to, they dish it out, but they cant take it.

Care to name a few?

Try it yourself, see what happens.

http://www.nobeliefs.com/mementoes.htm

[jobee]

If I may counter your initial question with an equlivalent question:

Why does an atheist who would, presumably, describe himself as a rational thinker go on an atheist forum to ask atheists to speculate on the motivations of christians?

Because you get barred from Christian forums when you ask embarrassing questions.
Try posting this on one.

http://www.nobeliefs.com/mementoes.htm

http://www.nobeliefs.com/mementoes.htm

[pinkocommie]

I've been barred from every Christian forum i've put this question to, they dish it out, but they cant take it.

Care to name a few?

Try it yourself, see what happens.

http://www.nobeliefs.com/mementoes.htm

A link isn't an answer.  Maybe you got banned because you can't help but spam the forums you participate on with links instead of answering direct questions?

[Whitney]

Or you get banned for spamming them with natzi links instead of first introducing yourself.