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Started by Jericho, April 09, 2010, 02:57:37 AM

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elliebean

QuoteThe point is found in your introduction and rather than just say welcome to the forum I place my opinion to a Humble Christian that used the word CONVERT.
Quote from: "Jericho"I don't honestly believe I will convert any atheists here to my way of thinking....

Thanks for clearing that up... ?  :hmm:
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You can’t lie to yourself. If you do you’ve only fooled a deluded person and where’s the victory in that?â€"Ricky Gervais

Whitney

Quote from: "hvargas"The point is found in your introduction and rather than just say welcome to the forum I place my opinion to a Humble Christian that used the word CONVERT.

McQ didn't post the introduction and you are taking the OP's use of the word 'convert' out of context if you think it required countering.  Btw, McQ's question was a nice way of reminding you that introduction threads are mainly just for introductions/welcoming only and to please respect that.

Evolved

Welcome, Jericho.  Please excuse the trolls.  We tried spraying for them, but they just keep coming back.
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Godterminator

Quote from: "Jericho"
Quote from: "Godterminator"Welcome to the forum.

I'm sure you will find intereting questions here.
I have one of my own. Do you give the bible a literal meaning?

Hi Godterminator,

Reasonable question, my first response would be that the question is probably a bit broad, the bible is made up of 66 different books written to different audiences (even though the principles apply to us today in most cases), and for different purposes.  For example a lot of what we find written in the book of Acts was geared at the Jews in Jerusalem to whom the apostles initially preached, pointing out to them how Jesus fulfilled all their old testament prophecies and how so many past events pointed to his coming (for example the passover amongst others).  Whereas Revelation is a prophetic book written to the different types of christians that would exist in the last days, each type of christian represented by one of the seven churches to whom he wrote.  A lot of what is written in this book uses symbolic language (for example the woman who rises out of the sea with a crown of twelve stars on her head), however you will also find that interpretation of what these things symbolise is often given in other verses - for example in this case the 12 stars represent the 12 apostles of the early church..  The most correct view is that the bible should be read literally unless the context and type of language used clearly suggest a symbolic reading. So for example when I read the account of Noah's flood or the creation of the earth and everthing in it in six literal days there is nothing either in the context or type of language which would suggest a symbolic reading of these and therefore I would view them literally.  The most important thing in bible interpretation is not to take verses in isolation and then state, there you go, this is what this means, we need to cross reference to other areas that deal with the same topic and consider the meaning within the historical and cultural context it was written in as well as the overall context and theme of the chapter a particular verse is in, and the audience it is directed at. Anything less is akin to a journalist giving an interview and selectively taking snippets of the convesation out of context in order to try and paint a picture that does not really exist.  The bible gives us clues on how to interpret it, for example, it states we should preach, the whole counsel of God and that we should interpret it line upon line, here a little there a little (like putting all the pieces of a jigsaw together before we see the right picture).  Sorry if that's a bit long winded but I hope it answers your question..

Thanks for answering. But since this is not the right place to debate, would you open a thread in Religion to satart a more formal discussion on this topic?
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hvargas

It's the duties of any christians to seek out others non-christian and lure them (" CONVERT " )to christianity. This forum will be just right to introduce oneself and pretent no intent to convert anyone. You want to be asked questions which will be religious one and you will tried to answer them with your religious views. If I were to introduce myself to a forum that is opposite of what I'm, I will want to know why they think as they do, why they reject such beliefs in GOD. Only you know of your motives and the innocents in this forum are just that innocent. HOW TO CONVINCE AN ATHEIST TO ACCEPT GOD - BEST DONE THROUGH QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.

hvargas

Most Humble Christian, I will not post you any questions seems you may know the answer allready. I will tell you this, Islam is a religion that is second to christianity and that I regconized as another LIE. The reason why Mohammad ( I will not go into details here ), invented it was to give the Arabs a " PERSONAL GOD " just like the jews. He hated the word "GENTILES" cause it denoted being less than a dog. As you know that was 630 years after your CHRIST. You can argue what I'm saying but it will not change the true of the matter. As far as your belief is concerned, you know that anyone who does not accept your CHRIST as its saviour is condenm to an internal HELL. As you also know that NO ONE CAN COME TO THE FATHER IF NOT THROUGH CHRIST. Your bible condenms all unless they accept Christ, this is the bottom line of the matter, everything else is just DETAILS. WHOM SHALL EVER BELIEVE IN HIM SHALL HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE. Those who don't are condenm until they do. Some like to separate the Bible the Church and the Church from Religion but these are not separable no matter what anyone saids. Its like trying to separate the FATHER, SON, and HOLY SPIRIT they are one and the same according to your BIBLE. Your mission as a true CHRITIAN is to CONVERT. For those who feel that I don't respect this Humble Christian, they are very wrong. I had gone to the core of my opinion and not placing it on hold.

Heretical Rants

Yes, there are trolls on both sides of any argument.

Apparantly, people get angry at other people when they do not agree with each other, and sometimes get angry at people who are not in any way connected to the original dispute.