The Forbbiden Knowledge: Truth?

[TheJackel]

THE FORBIDDEN TRUTH?


What is the historical truth about the Christian religion and the origin of the bible? Giving that the bible was written by over 40 authors, we can see how it has evolved into the mess it is today. Some theists will stand by it as some sort of historical truth written by divine men giving written translations from the very lips of GOD himself.  I find this utterly rediculous if not proof of the fallacy of the book and it's written contents. Thus, creative writing does not make anything credible, especially when In fact the bible is poorly written, and that is being polite..The bible simply can not be considered credible to ever be considered a history book what-so-ever. This is to where at best, it represents a copy paste religion to which that much of what has been written was stolen from other far more ancient religions than Christianity itself. It also has more contradictions in it than I can even remember. In this regard, anyone that believes mosses parted the sea, believes the world flooded a thousand plus feet above sea level, or that anything in Genesis actually makes any sense is delusional.. The bible only has historical value to itself as a copy paste religion. The book can not literally be taken seriously as a historical account of anything other than a window into the mindset and average cultural lives of it's biblical era. So, I am going to address many of the scathing problems with Christianity, and where it obviously derived from.

Problematic issues with the Bible:

1) Genesis is completely wrong: This link includes a total rebuttal to a supposed "Christian professional scientist"

Science VS Genesis Part 1
Science VS Genesis Part 2

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2) Plagiarism, contradiction, and unoriginality of the Bible

 lets get into some fun stuff while we are at it.. Let's see how much you even know about your religion and why it's entirely false and a form of plagiarism, or at the very least a perfect example of a copy / paste religion.

Jesus and Hercules
* http://www.pantheon.org/articles/h/hercules.html

      *Overcame the serpent and assassination attempts during infancy.
      *Divine Father and Mortal Mother.
      *Birth prophesied.
      *Consoled mother upon time of death with reference to Heaven
      *Final words: "It is finished"

Jesus and Dionysus
http://www.pantheon.org/articles/d/dionysus.html

      *Dionysus was the god of wine, agriculture, and fertility of nature
      *Divine Father, Mortal Virgin Mother
      *Healed the sick
      *Turned water into wine
      *Killed, and resurrected to immortality
      *Depicted on a Donkey
      *Death was greatest accomplishment delivering humanity

The Epic of Gilgamesh and Noah's Ark
http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/mesopotamian/gilgamesh/tab1.htm

      *Worldwide flood caused by rain would destroy everything
      *A single righteous man: Ut-Napishtim or Noah
      *The main characters were instructed to build an ark of wood with compartments, and have a single door
      *The arc settled on a mountain in the Middle East
      *Two birds returned to the ark, but not the third
      *An animal was offered as a sacrifice upon landing
      *The Gods in both stories expressed remorse for what they did

The great Sumerian Flood - Ark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKZhd3mJeBE&


Osiris
http://www.pantheon.org/articles/o/osiris.html

      *Body chopped up and scattered throughout the nation - Judges 20:6
      *Virgin mother
      *Rose from the grave to judge the souls of the dead
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3) One or More than one GOD?:

23. There is but one God
Deut 6:4
There is a plurality of gods
Gen 1:26/ Gen 3:22/ Gen 18:1-3/ 1 John 5:7

4) Jesus's Story Plagiarized / Copied and Pasted

 The story of Jesus is plagiarized from other religions far more ancient than Christianity. This goes beyond Judaism. The bulk can be directly traced to Egyptian religion, and the worship of the sun god Horus, who happens to share many important features with Jesus. These features are so identical, the issue cannot be due to coincidence. This is not to say that Horus is the only Pagan god with similar features, but he is one of the most identical to Jesus. Others might be Mithra, Krishna, Dionysus, Attis, or Zoroaster.

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Note: I lost the source site to the list below..
1. His mother was a virgin woman: Jesus, Attis, Buddha, Dionysus, Krishna, Mithra, Zoroaster
2. He was born on December 25: Jesus, Attis, Buddha, Dionysus, Horus, Krishna, Mithra
3. His earthly (adopted) father was a carpenter: Jesus, Krishna
4. His birth was signaled by a heavenly star: Jesus, Buddha, Horus, Krishna
5. At his birth, shepherds presented him with gifts: Jesus, Buddha, Horus, Krishna, Mithra
6. He was born in a manger or a cave: Jesus, Dionysus, Mithra
7. As a baby, he is declared a king. Wise men present him with gifts of gold: Jesus, Buddha, Krishna
8. Angels or other good divine spirits sang songs or danced at his birth: Jesus, Buddha, Krishna
9. He was threatened by a king or tyrant who tried to kill him as an infant: Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, Moses
10. He was of royal lineage: Jesus, Buddha, Horus
11. He taught at the temple as a child and astounded all who heard him with his wisdom: Jesus, Buddha, Horus, Zoroaster
12. He was baptized at a river: Jesus, Buddha, Horus, Zoroaster
13. His hapless baptizer is later decapitated: Jesus, Horus
14. He was tempted in the wilderness by the devil: Jesus, Zoroaster
15. He was a traveling teacher of great wisdom: Jesus, Buddha, Dionysus, Mithra
16. His ministry preached a message of charity, peace and love. He lived in poverty and loved the poor: Jesus, Krishna
17. He taught of heaven and hell, revealed mysteries, resurrection, judgment, salvation and the apocalypse: Jesus, Zoroaster
18. He gave a famous sermon on a mountain: Jesus, Horus
19. He had 12 disciples: Jesus, Horus, Mithra
20. He gave his disciples the power to work miracles: Jesus, Krishna
21. He was transfigured in front of his disciples, sometimes described as shining as the sun: Jesus, Buddha, Horus, Krishna
22. He healed the sick and the injured: Jesus, Buddha, Horus, Krishna, Mithra, Serapis, Zoroaster
23. He cast out demons: Jesus, Horus, Zoroaster
24. He fed hundreds or thousands with magically generated food: Jesus, Buddha
25. He walked on water: Jesus, Buddha, Horus
26. He brought back the dead: Jesus, Horus
27. He turned water into wine: Jesus, Dionysus
28. His followers were admonished to take vows of poverty and renounce worldly desires: Jesus, Buddha
29. He was called such exalted titles as "Lord", "Master", "Light of the World", "Holy One", "Redeemer", "The Way", "The Truth", etc.: Jesus, Buddha, Dionysus, Horus, Krishna, Mithra
30. He is called "Logos" or "The Word": Jesus, Horus, Krishna, Mithra, Prometheus, Zoroaster
31. He was called "the anointed one" (how "Christ" translates): Jesus, Dionysus, Horus
32. He was known to his followers as a Shepherd of Humanity: Jesus, Buddha, Horus, Mithra, Serapis
33. He was known as a fisher, associated with the fish: Jesus, Horus
34. He's identified with the ram or lamb: Jesus, Dionysus, Horus, Mithra
35. He's identified with the lion: Jesus, Horus, Krishna, Mithra
36. He came not to destroy but to fulfill the law: Jesus, Buddha, Horus
37. He rode in a triumphal procession on a donkey: Jesus, Dionysus
38. He condemned the clergy for their ambition and hypocrisy. He would later fall victim to their scheming: Jesus, Krishna
39. He crushed a serpent's head: Jesus, Buddha, Krishna
40. Declared the savior of humanity, slain for our salvation: Jesus, Attis, Krishna, Mithra
41. He sometimes is known by a heart symbol: Jesus, Krishna
42. His body and/or blood is consumed through bread/wine in a symbolic ritual: Jesus, Attis, Dionysus, Mithra, Zoroaster
43. He had a sacred cup or grail: Jesus, Zoroaster
44. He died while hung from a cross or a tree: Jesus, Attis, Buddha, Dionysus, Horus, Krishna
45. His good friend, a fisherman named Peter/Petraeus, would desert him: Jesus, Prometheus
46. He was crucified between two thieves: Jesus, Horus, Krishna
47. He was around the age of 30 when he was crucified: Jesus, Krishna
48. At his death, the sun darkened or there were other grim supernatural signs: Jesus, Krishna
49. He went to the underworld for three days: Jesus, Attis, Mithra
50. He was resurrected: Jesus, Attis, Buddha, Dionysus, Horus, Krishna, Mithra
51. He was resurrected during the springtime, the date of which would become a day of celebration among his followers: Jesus, Attis, Dionysus, Mithra
52. His sacred day is Sunday: Jesus, Mithra
53. He is the second part of a divine trinity and/or considered to be one with his father god: Jesus, Attis, Krishna
54. He promises to return one day: Jesus, Buddha, Horus, Krishna, Zoroaster
55. When he comes again, he will ride on a white horse to do battle with the prince of evil: Jesus, Krishna

5) Magical Unicorns!:
Deuteronomy 33:17.

"His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends."

6) Further Plagiarism or unoriginality:

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Science/Embryo/BiblecopyGreek.html

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=18212437&blogId=513421273


7) CHRISTIANITY IS THE WORSHIPING OF A SUN GOD?

[youtube:u0db2xl8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNf-P_5u_Hw[/youtube:u0db2xl8]
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CONCLUSION:

After reading and watching the videos, is Christianity a copy paste religion? Is it's story even original? Can we see a clear case of plagiarism? Well, to me it looks fairly copied and pasted to where it surely borderlines plagiarism.. At best we have a prime example of unoriginality of stolen concepts and ideas from ancient religions that include practices, and rituals. It's so blatantly obvious that it can not be ignored.. And the best part is that this shows religious evolution and religious speciation from ancient religions.  :cool:

[happynewyear]

This looks like the end of religion as we have known it.

[TheJackel]

This looks like the end of religion as we have known it.

No doubt, I would love to see a theist even attempt to argue this  

[dogsmycopilot]

is Christianity a copy paste religion? Is it's story even original?

Yes. No. Now go get yourself some ice cream. (Or a copy of the Golden Bough if you wish to study further.)

[Heathen's Guide]

I get into a lot of this stuff at work (professional atheist" ).  Here's the response I get from Xians...

They tell me that Satan controls this world.  As such, any proofs you can bring them in the way of archeology or history has been planted there by Satan.  They sincerely believe that it's all fake.  

Inevitably, they get to telling me that I have been deluded by Satan, and that I have to stop and listen to them in order to be free of Satan's lies.

I sit and listen.  I then mercilessly tear their arguments apart, and expose the fallacies in their reasoning.

After that, they usually decide that I am either in league with Satan, or I am Satan.  There's really no way to convince them of anything.  You either agree with them, or you are evil.

"Faith" is by far the best invention the religious elite ever came up with to control people.

[TheJackel]

is Christianity a copy paste religion? Is it's story even original?

Yes. No. Now go get yourself some ice cream. (Or a copy of the Golden Bough if you wish to study further.)

This was a question put forth to you to answer.. You should try playing along vs being sarcastic.. Yes Christianity is very much a copy paste religion.

[karadan]

I get into a lot of this stuff at work (professional atheist" ).  Here's the response I get from Xians...

They tell me that Satan controls this world.  As such, any proofs you can bring them in the way of archeology or history has been planted there by Satan.  They sincerely believe that it's all fake.  

Inevitably, they get to telling me that I have been deluded by Satan, and that I have to stop and listen to them in order to be free of Satan's lies.

I sit and listen.  I then mercilessly tear their arguments apart, and expose the fallacies in their reasoning.

After that, they usually decide that I am either in league with Satan, or I am Satan.  There's really no way to convince them of anything.  You either agree with them, or you are evil.

"Faith" is by far the best invention the religious elite ever came up with to control people.

People actually believe you are satan? Man, that's so messed up.