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Started by some light plz, January 18, 2010, 08:37:29 PM

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some light plz

preface
the falsification which has been done on bible [ OT , NT ] by the hand of Jews and Christians , also the changing of the messages of Prophets " Moses and Jesus " was the main reason for the appearance of atheism . in my opinion the atheist is a person who gives his brain a space of thinking , so he sees :
1- a killer god , a racial  god , his holy book contains  scientific mistakes and contradictions , has no wisdom , must not be worshipped .
2- a weak god ( Jesus ) not capable to defend himself , must not be worshipped .
3- a sinner prophets , who did a big sins , must not be followed . and should not be a pattern for humankind .
therefore the atheist taken off the religious dress  , telling himself : " I will escape from religion to my morals  and act good with people  " .

also the evolution of knowledge and modern sciences appearance in a wrong   environment [ religion ] was helpful to disable  The spiritual part  in human . because human became capable to know the reasons of many phenomenon in nature , until he reached to  a level thinks that he is capable to control  this world . and the only part remains for him is to defeat death and become " immortal " . his interest became in two parts :
1-   body's feeding : by foods and pleasures .
2-   brain's feeding : by  knowledge and science .  
3-   spirit's feeding : …………………………………….. null .

our bodies are ( flesh and water ) from our birth until death's time , also during death's time  we are ( flesh and water ) .
which thing will depart from our bodies ?
who will take it ?
why are we unable to Prevent it ?
why he chooses this time to apply death on us ?
why he did not wait until we become very old ?
do we have the ability to Prevent it for a blink of an eye ?


((61. He is the irresistible, (watching) from above over His worshippers, and He sets guardians over you. At length, when death approaches one of you, Our angels take his soul, and they never fail in their duty. )) Surah 6

((42. It is Allah that takes the souls (of men) at death; and those that die not (He takes) during their sleep: those on whom He has passed the decree of death, He keeps back (from returning to life), but the rest He sends (to their bodies) for a term appointed verily in this are Signs for those who reflect. )) Surah 39

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our bodies :
Did we come to this life by our will ?
Did we choose our shapes and our image by our will ?
Did we grow from a baby to a boy to a young then an adult by our own and by our will  ?
are we capable  to avoid old age if we live ?
Do we have the ability to avoid death ?
Do we have the ability to control our body operations ?


(( 6. O man! What has seduced thee from thy Lord Most Beneficent?- 7. Him Who created thee. Fashioned thee in due proportion, and gave thee a just bias; 8. In whatever Form He wills, does He put thee together. )) Surah 82

My advice to read the beginning of this Surah 82

please : save your comments until i prove it
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curiosityandthecat

Quote from: "some light plz"please : save your comments until i prove it
roflol
-Curio

AlP

Quote from: "some light plz"My advice to read the beginning of this Surah 82
Already did. It reminds me of the Bible.

Quote from: "some light plz"please : save your comments until i prove it
Sorry.
"I rebel -- therefore we exist." - Camus


some light plz

Until now even when you became an atheist , unable to get out from the circle of Bible …
more than once " the writers of the bible lied about God and prophets "

my friends , I will show you something different above your imagination .

my regard
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AlP

Quote from: "some light plz"Until now even when you became an atheist , unable to get out from the circle of Bible …
I have never been Christian or of any religion for that matter.
"I rebel -- therefore we exist." - Camus

Ihateusernames

Quote from: "some light plz"Until now even when you became an atheist , unable to get out from the circle of Bible …
more than once " the writers of the bible lied about God and prophets "

my friends , I will show you something different above your imagination .

my regard

This may seem a little rude, since my English also isn't exactly perfect all the time, however... I really can't even understand what you say about 129/130th of the time....

so...

waa?
To all the 'Golden Rule' moralists out there:

If a masochist follows the golden rule and harms you, are they being 'good'? ^_^

Ellainix

I think is he trying to convert us to Islam, but...?
Quote from: "Ivan Tudor C McHock"If your faith in god is due to your need to explain the origin of the universe, and you do not apply this same logic to the origin of god, then you are an idiot.

Whitney

i've gotten tired of reading his posts...use the report button if he is preaching again.

some light plz

I wrote only one  verse of many verses mentioned human's stages in wombs :

(( [5] O mankind! if ye have a doubt about the Resurrection, (consider) that We created you out of dust, then out of sperm, then out of a leech-like clot, then out of a morsel of flesh, partly formed and partly unformed, in order that We may manifest (our power) to you; and We cause whom We will to rest in the wombs for an appointed term, then do We bring you out as babes, then (foster you) that ye may reach your age of full strength; and some of you are called to die, and some are sent back to the feeblest old age, so that they know nothing after having known (much), and (further), thou seest the earth barren and lifeless, but when We pour down rain on it, it is stirred (to life), it swells, and it puts forth every kind of beautiful growth (in pairs). )) Surah 22

The verse directs its speech to the doubters about the resurrection !!!!

well most of my friends here are those people …,

therefore before 1400 years the holy Quran mentioned human's creation and the stages of creation in wombs . which means Allah lets the mission for science and scientists to prove it , to became strong witness against persons who does not believe in God .

and in deed professor Keith L. Moore proved that Quran is speaking the truth : [Because the staging of human embryos is complex, owing to the continuous process of change during development, it is proposed that a new system of classification could be developed using the terms mentioned in the Quran and Sunnah. The proposed system is simple, comprehensive, and conforms with present embryological knowledge. ] .
Professor Keith L. Moore added the Quranic verses about human creation to his famous book : " the Developing human " .

[youtube:3o2gvy7f]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx434UE3SYw[/youtube:3o2gvy7f]

Who did tell prophet Mohammad about it ?
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Jolly Sapper

Any person who has ever domesticated animals, you know raised them from birth and butchered them later for food.  

Watch your heard of goats long enough and you'll figure out a little bit of reproductive biology.

When it comes time to slaughter a few for food, you'll figure out the rest when you see the insides outside.

Its not much more than a tiny leap of the imagination to see that maybe, just maybe, human reproduction processes are similar to another mammal.

Now that I've typed this, I find myself confused as to what this has to do with resurrection.

pinkocommie

Quote from: "Jolly Sapper"Any person who has ever domesticated animals, you know raised them from birth and butchered them later for food.  

Watch your heard of goats long enough and you'll figure out a little bit of reproductive biology.

When it comes time to slaughter a few for food, you'll figure out the rest when you see the insides outside.

Its not much more than a tiny leap of the imagination to see that maybe, just maybe, human reproduction processes are similar to another mammal.

Now that I've typed this, I find myself confused as to what this has to do with resurrection.

I want to see a clear response to your post from some light plz, otherwise I will be adequately convinced that he is just proselytizing.  I would hate to dismiss someone trying to have a real discussion or debate about these issues simply because of difficulty with communication because I want to learn about the Muslim faith from a Muslim, but it seems to me these posts are less about communication and more about preaching.  Am I wrong?
Ubi dubium ibi libertas: Where there is doubt, there is freedom.
http://alliedatheistalliance.blogspot.com/

Mark L Holland

To Pinkocommie

  No your not wrong.
 :bananacolor:

karadan

Quote from: "Whitney"i've gotten tired of reading his posts...use the report button if he is preaching again.

Haha, i never knew there was report button.  :)

Is it preaching if you really can't understand what the OP is trying to say? I don't think his posts are simple cut/paste. I just think he's using an awful translation program.

Either way, his posts made my eyes hurt.
QuoteI find it mistifying that in this age of information, some people still deny the scientific history of our existence.

some light plz

As long  as you do not understand me, I will stop writing
Please Whitney : delete all my posts , thanks
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