Evidence of God's existence

[angelosergipe]

How do you figure that?  If the processes that have led to the rise of life on this planet are simply innate properties of this universe - it's like saying water was "specifically engineered to have three states", how can you say this universe was "fine tuned" when you have nothing to compare it against?  What basal state or null do you base this conclusion against?  Otherwise the claim is baseless.

the life permitting range of over 120 constants is in a determined limit. If the values are outside that range, life cannot evolve.

http://elshamah.heavenforum.com/astrono ... se-t31.htm

In his best- selling book A Brief History of Time, Hawking writes:

"The remarkable fact is that the values of these numbers seem to have been finely adjusted to make possible the development of life. For example if the electric charge of the electron had been only slightly different, stars would have been unable to burn hydrogen and helium , or else they would not have exploded." [A Brief History of Time, p. 125] A minor difference in the electron's charge and stars wouldn't burn. There would be no burning sun at the centre of our solar system to provide life-supporting heat and light. Also there would be no supernova explosions to produce the raw materials for the formation of planets like our earth." [Ferguson, p. 94]

[angelosergipe]

If you were thinking like a cosmologist you wouldn't be making this argument.  YOu simply don't understand the 2nd law.  Here's a explanation link that I know you won't read because you are closed-minded and don't actually care about the truth:  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/thermo/entropy.html
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The issue at talkorigins is actually different , than what i stated. One thing has nothing to do with the other.

New research has oppened up the possibility of bubble universes (a multiverse theory). So, while nothing is conclusive yet it leaves open the possibility of infinite existence.

The Multiverse proposal - a valid hypotheses ?

http://elshamah.heavenforum.com/astrono ... es-t20.htm

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http://elshamah.heavenforum.com/astrono ... se-t31.htm

how come no one else posts on your forum? only elshamah888?  

[Whitney]

angelosergipe, you just recieved warning number 2 for continuing to not use your own words when posting.  Next warning is a one week ban.

I'm not going to even waste my time responding to you unless you comply with the rules.

[Whitney]

http://elshamah.heavenforum.com/astrono ... se-t31.htm

how come no one else posts on your forum? only elshamah888?  

Probably because elshamah888 is angelosergipe and knows posting here will help their search ranking.....

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http://elshamah.heavenforum.com/astrono ... se-t31.htm

how come no one else posts on your forum? only elshamah888?  :hide:

[Whitney]

dude... there is like thousands of posts, but only one poster. its almost like... he is talking to himself...  

I have a feeling you aren't going to get an actual answer to that since no answer is going to be that flattering.

[curiosityandthecat]

Went to the forum. First post I looked in had a YouTube video called "How to Convert an Atheist."

 

[Whitney]

Went to the forum. First post I looked in had a YouTube video called "How to Convert an Atheist."

 

I think they need to take conversion plan back to the drawing boards...annoying people is not a good approach.

[Regens Küchl]

Then I have something for you  

Hi Folks, I am a famous Angelologist  I follow Angelo whereever he goes in the Internet and made a list of many forums wherein he evangelizes. Here it is  
And i wish you a happy new year, dear happy atheist forum  

so you are some kind of e-stalker? should i not feel creeped out? cause i do.....

Yes, I am a stalker of Angels. They tend to get nervous and take flight back to heaven when I draw near

[Regens Küchl]

Went to the forum. First post I looked in had a YouTube video called "How to Convert an Atheist."

 

[FredMore]

The question of evidence for the existence of god is one which will always baffle the atheist. The atheist looks for evidence which is separate from that which is in question. Wrong approach, completely the wrong approach, and this is something that the atheist can't understand, and this is why the atheist always ends up going round in circles, frustrated, and utterly futile. The atheist needs to understand that god's creation and god are one and the same. It's not that the atheist has an inferior intellect, it's more a case of the atheist having incorrect assumptions about what god is and what god does. I've had many discussions with atheists about this and they don't get it. I always chuckle when the atheist says to me "Prove it" Prove what, exactly? If the atheist doesn't even understand what it is that they want proven, how will they ever understand their own question? I'm afraid I can't help them if they themselves lack the understanding of what exactly they are asking. My atheist friends, please do some homework on what god is or what god is supposed to be before you ask such questions, otherwise the result will always be the same : Unanswered question, frustration, failure to grasp the very basics, and egg on face (I don't mean that in a patronizing way but it does make me chuckle). Other than that, I find atheists stimulating company, despite the obvious shortfalls.

I am FredMore, thank you for allowing me onto your forum. Let's keep it clean, please.

[pinkocommie]

The question of evidence for the existence of god is one which will always baffle the atheist. The atheist looks for evidence which is separate from that which is in question. Wrong approach, completely the wrong approach, and this is something that the atheist can't understand, and this is why the atheist always ends up going round in circles, frustrated, and utterly futile. The atheist needs to understand that god's creation and god are one and the same. It's not that the atheist has an inferior intellect, it's more a case of the atheist having incorrect assumptions about what god is and what god does. I've had many discussions with atheists about this and they don't get it. I always chuckle when the atheist says to me "Prove it" Prove what, exactly? If the atheist doesn't even understand what it is that they want proven, how will they ever understand their own question? I'm afraid I can't help them if they themselves lack the understanding of what exactly they are asking. My atheist friends, please do some homework on what god is or what god is supposed to be before you ask such questions, otherwise the result will always be the same : Unanswered question, frustration, failure to grasp the very basics, and egg on face (I don't mean that in a patronizing way but it does make me chuckle). Other than that, I find atheists stimulating company, despite the obvious shortfalls.

I am FredMore, thank you for allowing me onto your forum. Let's keep it clean, please.

Jeeze.  You're utterly dripping with a patronizing tone.  My question is, why should anyone care what you think?

[uglyduckling]

The question of evidence for the existence of god is one which will always baffle the atheist. The atheist looks for evidence which is separate from that which is in question. Wrong approach, completely the wrong approach, and this is something that the atheist can't understand, and this is why the atheist always ends up going round in circles, frustrated, and utterly futile. The atheist needs to understand that god's creation and god are one and the same. It's not that the atheist has an inferior intellect, it's more a case of the atheist having incorrect assumptions about what god is and what god does. I've had many discussions with atheists about this and they don't get it. I always chuckle when the atheist says to me "Prove it" Prove what, exactly? If the atheist doesn't even understand what it is that they want proven, how will they ever understand their own question? I'm afraid I can't help them if they themselves lack the understanding of what exactly they are asking. My atheist friends, please do some homework on what god is or what god is supposed to be before you ask such questions, otherwise the result will always be the same : Unanswered question, frustration, failure to grasp the very basics, and egg on face (I don't mean that in a patronizing way but it does make me chuckle). Other than that, I find atheists stimulating company, despite the obvious shortfalls.

I am FredMore, thank you for allowing me onto your forum. Let's keep it clean, please.

heehee!  I have obvious shortfalls!  I love that part best.  I'm really starting to warm up to you, FredMore.

[elliebean]

it's more a case of the atheist having incorrect assumptions about what god is and what god does. I've had many discussions with atheists about this and they don't get it. I always chuckle when the atheist says to me "Prove it" Prove what, exactly? If the atheist doesn't even understand what it is that they want proven, how will they ever understand their own question?

Evidently you understand it. Why don't you explain it to us?