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Started by AlP, October 15, 2009, 08:07:08 AM

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Whitney

#60
October 24, 2009, 01:02:23 AM
I'm the opposite...the last thing I need to do if I want do do something I enjoy but is bad for me is something stressful and/or requires lots of concentration.  Mindless things like Peggle, Sims and stupid facebook games are better.

LoneMateria

#61
October 24, 2009, 03:17:08 AM
Quote from: "Renegnicat"Programming is an excellent way to get your head off of the drinking. When you're feeling the urge to drink, it's always nice to put your head into something that requires a lot of concentration.

Here's a tip: When you feel the urge to drink, hold nonsense conversations with yourself. This works great with me and my addictions. I'll be like this:

So, ohoho! Monsieur, the citty litter was too much for you, eh? Kitty LITTER? I shall demand reparation for such insult! You can not repair me, monsieur, and my accent is not french. Well, I can run up your electrical bill. No! Anything but that! Then take this potato chip, and EAT IT.

I usually end up having so much fun making these strange conversations that I forget all about my cravings.  :cool:


There is so much that is screwed up in here it frightens me... no offense.  I never thought someone would suggest talking to themselves as a means to fight an addiction.

Anyway yes programming can be stressful but it should take your mind off of everything else you are doing.  It is also rewarding because you get instant gratification when you make a function work or think of a different way to do something that actually works.  And if you get really into whatever you are making several hours can pass in the blink of an eye... well at least for me.

Right now my side project is making a bejeweled type game (only much much better) in Java (which I dislike ... though I really like a very similar language to it called C#).  Time goes by fast when I work on it.
Quote from: "Richard Lederer"There once was a time when all people believed in God and the church ruled. This time was called the Dark Ages
Quote from: "Demosthenes"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true.
Quote from: "Oscar Wilde"Truth, in matters of religion, is simpl

AlP

#62
October 24, 2009, 03:35:42 AM
Quote from: "LoneMateria"Anyway yes programming can be stressful but it should take your mind off of everything else you are doing.  It is also rewarding because you get instant gratification when you make a function work or think of a different way to do something that actually works.  And if you get really into whatever you are making several hours can pass in the blink of an eye... well at least for me.

Right now my side project is making a bejeweled type game (only much much better) in Java (which I dislike ... though I really like a very similar language to it called C#).  Time goes by fast when I work on it.
I don't find programming stressful when I do it at home. Doing it for a living that can make it stressful, like deadlines and death marches and such like. At home I get completely lost in the flow of it. It's like another world =).
"I rebel -- therefore we exist." - Camus

SSY

#63
October 24, 2009, 09:14:37 PM
Programming would turn me to drink.

/. Run_script
FORTRAN STOP

 :brick:  :brick:
Quote from: "Godschild"SSY: You are fairly smart and to think I thought you were a few fries short of a happy meal.
Quote from: "Godschild"explain to them how and why you decided to be athiest and take the consequences that come along with it
Quote from: "Aedus"Unlike atheists, I'm not an angry prick

AlP

#64
October 24, 2009, 09:18:23 PM
Well FORTRAN will certainly drive anyone to drink =). Has there really been no progress in languages for numerical work? Jeez.
"I rebel -- therefore we exist." - Camus

LoneMateria

#65
October 24, 2009, 11:41:04 PM
Yeah i'd probably consider suicide before working in FORTRAN ... and COBOL lol.
Quote from: "Richard Lederer"There once was a time when all people believed in God and the church ruled. This time was called the Dark Ages
Quote from: "Demosthenes"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true.
Quote from: "Oscar Wilde"Truth, in matters of religion, is simpl

Renegnicat

#66
October 27, 2009, 03:33:36 PM
Talking to yourself isn't really that bad of a thing, LoneMateria. It's just that there's a stigma attached to it, with people assuming that the person talking to himself thinks he's actually talking to another person. I talk to myself all the time, but I'm perfectly aware that I'm not actually talking to another person.

I guess it's because I'm a pretty good actor, that I can invent personalities to fight with each other and entertain me. But that doesn't mean I think the personalities are real. They are about as real as reading dialogue in a book you wrote yourself. Or a play.

Also, I love programming, but I almost never do it. I really should get back into it, it's just that I have to put in the dues needed to become a good programmer, and I'm afraid of failure. Given my list of mental disorders and learning disabilities, I've been at a disadvantage from the start, and it's very difficult for me to really become good at something.

I should start programming again. I've always wanted to code an algorithm in C that would evaluate a Go Board Position in under 50 lines of code. Yikes!  :crazy:
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LoneMateria

#67
October 27, 2009, 04:42:38 PM
Is there a programming thread here?  We probably should stay on topic.  I noticed that AlP hasn't posted what he has been drinking lately.

Also Renegnicat if you are afraid to fail you will never succeed.  Besides programming wise you should expect failure, how often do you create a program that runs perfectly the first time you compile it?
Quote from: "Richard Lederer"There once was a time when all people believed in God and the church ruled. This time was called the Dark Ages
Quote from: "Demosthenes"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true.
Quote from: "Oscar Wilde"Truth, in matters of religion, is simpl

AlP

#68
October 27, 2009, 05:33:07 PM
It was 9. Didn't hit 6 but 9 is better than 11. 11 = bad hangover. 9 = no hangover.
"I rebel -- therefore we exist." - Camus

Whitney

#69
October 27, 2009, 05:39:33 PM
Quote from: "AlP"It was 9. Didn't hit 6 but 9 is better than 11. 11 = bad hangover. 9 = no hangover.

9 is acceptable considering your previous numbers.  Would writing Hangover=Bad on your fridge help keep the numbers in this 6-9 range till you are able to cut back again?

SSY

#70
October 28, 2009, 12:23:15 AM
Quote from: "AlP"Well FORTRAN will certainly drive anyone to drink =). Has there really been no progress in languages for numerical work? Jeez.

Now people are moving over to object orientated, but the professor I am doing my work with uses FORTRAN, so I use it. Some of the scripts she gave me are in FORTRAN 70, ie, all in capitals. It seems like the program is shouting at me. Not to mention all the other stupid shit, like the mandatory six spaces at the start of every line, which is left over from the punch card days, drives me to distraction .Another fun on is if I dare to not declare a variable, and it ends up initializing at the end of the integer scale (2^31 or something insane, nothing screws up a calculation like a do loop starting at i=2 147 483 648).
Quote from: "Godschild"SSY: You are fairly smart and to think I thought you were a few fries short of a happy meal.
Quote from: "Godschild"explain to them how and why you decided to be athiest and take the consequences that come along with it
Quote from: "Aedus"Unlike atheists, I'm not an angry prick

Jolly Sapper

#71
October 29, 2009, 06:38:17 PM
AIP, more power to ya'.  

Any chance that you've got some friendly neighbors/friends/family who don't do much drinking that you can hang out with several time a week to help keep you occupied?  

Earlier in the thread you mentioned that you weren't too keen on the idea of "coming out" to your real life friends about this situation but maybe its time.  At least if there is any chance that they would be willing to help keep you in check instead of going off and getting pissy with you.

hehe, if you were in the military I'd imagine you'd know about antabuse.  Nasty stuff, causes seizures if you have both antabuse and alcohol in your system (including the smell of alcohol).  Its squarely in the "negative reinforcement" category and should require constant supervision when used (I've got a story if you want to hear it sometime.)

SSY

#72
October 30, 2009, 01:30:58 AM
That sounds rather Clockwork Orange to me. . . .
Quote from: "Godschild"SSY: You are fairly smart and to think I thought you were a few fries short of a happy meal.
Quote from: "Godschild"explain to them how and why you decided to be athiest and take the consequences that come along with it
Quote from: "Aedus"Unlike atheists, I'm not an angry prick

AlP

#73
October 30, 2009, 01:47:25 AM
Quote from: "Jolly Sapper"AIP, more power to ya'.  

Any chance that you've got some friendly neighbors/friends/family who don't do much drinking that you can hang out with several time a week to help keep you occupied?  

Earlier in the thread you mentioned that you weren't too keen on the idea of "coming out" to your real life friends about this situation but maybe its time.  At least if there is any chance that they would be willing to help keep you in check instead of going off and getting pissy with you.

hehe, if you were in the military I'd imagine you'd know about antabuse.  Nasty stuff, causes seizures if you have both antabuse and alcohol in your system (including the smell of alcohol).  Its squarely in the "negative reinforcement" category and should require constant supervision when used (I've got a story if you want to hear it sometime.)
My friends all know. And most of them aren't heavy drinkers. Except on weekends!
"I rebel -- therefore we exist." - Camus

karadan

#74
October 31, 2009, 11:32:58 PM
Quote from: "Jolly Sapper"AIP, more power to ya'.  

Any chance that you've got some friendly neighbors/friends/family who don't do much drinking that you can hang out with several time a week to help keep you occupied?  

Earlier in the thread you mentioned that you weren't too keen on the idea of "coming out" to your real life friends about this situation but maybe its time.  At least if there is any chance that they would be willing to help keep you in check instead of going off and getting pissy with you.

hehe, if you were in the military I'd imagine you'd know about antabuse.  Nasty stuff, causes seizures if you have both antabuse and alcohol in your system (including the smell of alcohol).  Its squarely in the "negative reinforcement" category and should require constant supervision when used (I've got a story if you want to hear it sometime.)

I've never heard of antabuse before. I just did a google on it. Crikey, they use that in the military? I'd like to hear your story. That stuff sounds awful!
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